On a Scale of Most Severe, Which Vice Affects You the Most?

Egotism definitely. If I don't keep that in check then everything else starts going haywire. It's a daily battle for.
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Randip Singh

Those who renounce meat, and hold their noses when sitting near it, devour men at night.
They practice hypocrisy, and make a show before other people, but they do not understand anything about meditation or spiritual wisdom.
Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Page 1289
Fools Who Wrangle Over Flesh

Definitely there at birth. Its part of the package of a human body. Humans left to their own devices would be nasty pieces of work - just look at children in the schoolyard and how vicious they are to each other. The cultivation of and adherence to our higher selves (Guruji) is what helps us subdue our primitive urges. Some do it better than others.
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The corporation of the self needs to be run by a top-down governance model, not bottoms up.

Ambersariaji,

Allow me to explain,if we stick with plato's analogy, with the chariot representing reason, the white horse representing truth, contentment, compassion, humility and love, and the black horse, and the black horse representing the thieves, then this is the way in which the thieves can be used to transport reason from one our present location to our destination.

From a personal point of view, it is lust that brought me to this forum, and it was lust, that eventually changed me from atheism to sikhism over the course of this year.

My wife became ill and was signed off from work with stress, I suppose 25 years in nursing is enough to stress anyone out, anyway, the medication completely affected our intimacy, which at that point was a huge part of my life, and left a massive void which I struggled to fill, in the end I filled it with knowledge and understanding, and a belief in the Creator. being an extreme person, I ended up going round and round in circles, as at the time I felt I was either wolf or man, so the white horse was either doing all the work, or the black horse was doing all the work, Sikhi enabled me to use wisdom for the black horse, the fetishes which I was blessed with can make me extremely happy, and they are completely harmless, (its no more than an item of clothing), but now I use them as a carrot, I dangle them in front of the black horse, and I am its master, I can go at full pelt and the black horse is under my reign, not dragging me behind it, all that power and energy is harnessed and is useful if directed at the right things,

I talked to wife this morning about this thread, she maintained that her biggest one was rage, and the medication meant that the black horse was so doped out of its head, that it was actually sitting in the chariot fast asleep, while the white horse did all the work, my wife sleeps a lot, so that explains that!

In my humble view Ambersariaji, the thieves are there to be ruthlessly exploited for their pulling power, strength, endurance and stupidity in being manipulated, hope that makes some sense

Anger, but even this stems from Haumei and from ego. They all do.

The Krodh in me gave the wings to my Kaam which took me to Moh where I felt Ahankar laced with Lobh.

So, they all cooperate with each other?

Inderjeet ji,

Guru Fateh.

Yes, they are Siamese quintuplets.

Inderjeet Kaur ji if I may add to Tejwant Singh ji's above post, the creator is one, the creation is one, we are one, each one of us is one. Separation into parts, dissections into qualities, etc., is a human concept. It is used by humans to understand but at no time can it change the oneness that we are.

There are absolute switches in our head that give us total and permanent control over our parts and shut of this or shut off that. We can learn to always better manage ourselves but still as one that we are.

Sat Sri Akal.

Ego ego ego ego ego