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Ishna ji, all the things you relate to femininity are derived from the media and culture. If you had been born to a different culture, your perception would be different. In the BBC show Human Planet, they showed tribes in Africa where it is up to the man to dress up and impress the women rather than the other way around
| Men in all cultures dress up to impress women.Infact it is one of the sole reason Men try to look good.When they are not in business of impressing women men dress up very badly.On the other hand If you look at women then Girls from age 12 to older women try to look at as good as they can.I don't think a Girl of age of 12 or 60 year old woman dress up just to impress men .
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22-Apr-2011, 13:56 PM
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so really this word relates to girls more so because of there way of being kind gentle and patient.
| Absolutely correct. It is ingrained in female instinct to be more caring. Sociobiologist from Harward University, Edward O. Wilson has observed that women are more empathetic and security seeking than men and have more developed verbal and social skills. In comparison, men tend to be more independent, aggressive and dominant and demonstrate greater spartial and mathematical skills. | | The following members appreciate Astroboy Ji for the above message. | | 
22-Apr-2011, 15:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Astroboy Absolutely correct. It is ingrained in female instinct to be more caring. Sociobiologist from Harward University, Edward O. Wilson has observed that women are more empathetic and security seeking than men and have more developed verbal and social skills. In comparison, men tend to be more independent, aggressive and dominant and demonstrate greater spartial and mathematical skills. |
In my generation, amongst those fighting for women's equality it was a must-believe tenet of faith that boys and girls were really the same aside from a few differences, mostly in the genitals. If girls were given trucks to play with and boys were given baby dolls, girls would develop "masculine" traits and boys would develop "feminine" traits.
When parents actually tried these experiments on their own children, what a surprise! Little girls would cuddle and nurture their Tonka trucks and little boys would rough house and even tear apart the baby dolls. Now, of course, we know that there are huge differences between the female and male brains. We have learned that these traits really are biologically ingrained. Females are hard-wired to be nurturers, males to be protectors. Of course, there are exceptions to this, and most humans have both sets of these traits to some degree, but they do fit the overwhelming majority of humans.
We sometimes surprise even ourselves. I was always expected to be able to do anything a man could do (except father a child, of course). It was expected that, like my brothers, I would have a lucrative career getting immense satisfaction from making gobs of money. In fact, by far the happiest, most fulfilling part of my life was when I was a wife and mother at home running our little farm, cooking and cleaning and raising our child. And milking the goats. I have since had a nice career, making money and doing what was expected of me by my family until I had the first stroke and was unable to be an effective breadwinner.
I have always felt like a woman to myself. I like my woman's body and my woman's brain and all that goes with that. I am sad that most women, especially Sikh women, are trapped in a long outdated patriarchal social system that doesn't allow them to develop anything like their full potential. When that system is overcome - and it will be - only then will we see femininity in full bloom. I am most impatient for that day!
I eagerly await the day that my Punjabi sisters will sing - and mean - this song which became the anthem of the Women's Movement in the Western world in the 1970s. We still have a long way to go, but let us not forget how far we have come. Singhnis of Punjab, Guru ji sanctions our equality. Let us now claim it, so we can be, inside and out, the beautiful strong, intelligent, feminine women we were made to be.
Now, let us sing. The words are on screen, for those who don't know them | | The following members appreciate Mai Harinder Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
22-Apr-2011, 16:49 PM
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| | | | | Re: An Exploration of Femininity and Sikh Women Who is keeping a Sikh woman no matter Amritdhari or not Amritdhari away from tying a lady's turban , it is looking soooo great and its most practical if you have a job like i have !!!! There are so many colour options like rainbow !!!!
Also you can use both a great colourful chunni and turban ...
Think about ,
It looks great 100%
Even with long head hair you can do a lot , there are endless possibilities .
A woman's beauty is anyway shining from inside ....all other cultures have forgot that ...All are running after some model creations which are looking more like artifficial ...:happykaur:  SAT SRI AKAL | | The following members appreciate dushanka Ji for the above message. | | 
22-Apr-2011, 17:42 PM
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A woman's beauty is anyway shining from inside ...
| ...and I want to add more to this statement. You need to enjoy being you. If you like yourself and exhibit the inner confidence, people will take more of a shine to you. It’s common sense that men are drawn to a woman who seems to enjoy life. Of course it's easier said than done. Nobody is born as a pro doing these things. We all have to develop the skills to make conversation interesting. And there are more things you'll be shocked to what men are actually interested in. The commercialized versions are far from it. | | The following members appreciate Astroboy Ji for the above message. | | 
24-Apr-2011, 06:13 AM
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| | | | | Re: An Exploration of Femininity and Sikh Women As mentioned by Harwinder ji there is more emphasis on males getting in touch with their feminine side. Conversely in my house my father isn't good with DIY-it's done by my mother. Does that make my father less masculine or my mother less feminine? Not at all! I think these examples show that real femininity (or masculinity) is from the inside rather than displayed on the outside.
Earlier in the thread an example was given of a lady wearing hijab and make up. To me this is not femininity but hypocrisy. The purpose of the hijab is for modesty and to reduce lustful thoughts in men. If a woman is then going to attract attention by using makeup and jewellery it seems contradictory. I find the appearance of a woman wearing a turban with heavily manicured eyebrows, lots of make up and jewellery equally contradictory but for different reasons. External femininity will be heavily influenced by the culture you grow up with so cannot be universal. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/general-discussion/35185-an-exploration-of-femininity-sikh-women.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35185
Now I would like to propose a question. How does defining femininity help? Maybe this will help with understanding what kind of information you are hoping to learn | | The following members appreciate findingmyway Ji for the above message. | | 
24-Apr-2011, 09:24 AM
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| | | | | Re: An Exploration of Femininity and Sikh Women findingmyway ji perhaps we can adopt an alternative methodology too. Why don't the females try to define what is masculinity. For all common understanding, femininity is the antonym in general.
Let us say I can identify a couple of characteristic in men, - Impressed by looks
- Bad listeners in general
- Example:
- I was watching the dating show (pretty trashy but nevertheless) and the host made a very interesting comment. The show alternates with one man choosing from three women one day and the next day a woman picking a man from three men.
- He said that the men trying to select a women would do so within the first ten seconds of seeing the women
- He said that the women on the other hand would listen to much of the show before deciding.
Any comments if it helps in this thread or hinders and I can delete. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35185Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35185
Regards.
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24-Apr-2011, 09:59 AM
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| | | | | Re: An Exploration of Femininity and Sikh Women Findingmyway -ji , Sat Sri Akal , Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35185
Of course your example a woman wearing turban plus tons of make up etc... etc.. is a big contradictory . My own example above is just simple me , myself ...I wanted to say Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=35185
that Sikh woman have more possibilities to look great , without to jump over to islamistic way of styling . I for myself wear my turban mostly at work because for me it is most practical thing . As my job has to do with food , so i am always perfect styled. Depands where and if the woman is working a little bit lipp gloss does not look bad .
My own case is i can not use anything else except face hydro cream . Make up and those kind of things i have never used ... Beauty comes 100% from INSIDE .
A woman can wear greatest cosmetics & dresses but most interesting is the situation after she opens her mouth and talks... what is she saying , what is the way of her moves , what is the way of her thinking ... For men i would say there is almost the same thing , which use of a Narcissus ? | | The following members appreciate dushanka Ji for the above message. | | 
01-Jan-2012, 20:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mariposazul kds1980 ji,
with your mention of other female Sikh role models in Sikh history, it just came to mind the book "Twenty Nobel and Brave Sikh Women" by Retired Principal Sawan Singh. I have the 2005 hard cover edition, there is a more recent 2011 digital edition. It is a good reference and short stories on these women starting from Bebe Guru Nanaki ji.
In the hard cover edition there are very beautiful paintings rendering different high points in each Kaur's bio.
The sole purpose of this book, the author notes, was to bring awareness of all these Kaur role models...have to dig it up again and re-read it.-thanks! | Found the digital version on Scribd:
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