Is There A God?

Jeff Ji,
I am be interested in knowing your experience of God, and I think many people on the thread will be. Would you mind sharing?

Thanks
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What I would like to know is what is God?

Different faiths see God in different ways.

Some as a beardy man.

Some as something more abstract.

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Some as the force of life itself.

Buddists see "Truth" as "God".

Sp please describe how you see God to be?

SS AKAL JI.

I welcome your thoughts and self experiences of Supreme being. Your soul
is being touched without beyond your expression and you can not inject your feelings into other human souls to make them believe what you are experiencing in side of you..

Because you are blessed with this kinds of feelings.

Just for instance some people's claim that they do not trust in God .So what is big deal ? Do they trust them selves? It is not making any differences to all humanity.

For example a elementary school student who is told that H20 =water unless he is in higher grade when he can see the practical truth.


One has to bring his soul to level of higher in thoughts and mind to realizes the higher beings.

Gurbani or any others teaching by many prophets can be motivating to such higher level of thinking's.

Nothing is achieved by having no trust but some thing may be achieved by believing some thing which turned thousand of souls to live a Saintly lives.

You know you are blessed and be aware of all your souls and mind which is capable to realizes the Supreme presence all the time especially when you get up in the morning with new gift of life every day.



Jaspal

SS AKAL JI

The answers to all your questions are openly answered in Jap ji.by Gur Nanak.

"Mithia na jai,kita na hoi,ape app niranjan soi"

and mentioned no one can explain HIS presence unless one is realized.

Jaspi

[QUOTE=Tejwant Singh;132094]Jasbir ji,

Guru Fateh.

You write:



Yes, I agree that this interesting discussion has been going on for months and I hope it never stops and we keep on asking questions in order to learn and know ourselves better. But I beg to differ with you on the latter part of your statement. Everyone who has participated in the discussion has answered the questions to best of their abilities.

If you are not convinced then you have every right to ask questions and continue this interesting interaction.

Now let me ask you questions about your own questions that you have posted.



Exactly, what is God for you?

Please describe from your own perspective him,her or it so that we can find out what he, she, it does.

Please share with us what does the God you have in your mind does?



Why don't you share with us your opinion about the God you have in mind and what makes you believe in him,her it?

As far as I am concerned, belief systems are make believe things. If one is seeking for the truth then one does not have to believe because truth stands on its own. It needs no belief.

Hope to learn from your enlightenment.

Regards

Tejwant Singh



Tejwant Singh Ji,
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Guru Fateh,

I am still in search of this elusive

ENLIGHTENMENT. I am still a seeker and have

not reached the

stage where I can enlighten anyone.

Here's an interesting article from today's press:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11161493
Stephen Hawking: God did not create Universe



There is no place for God in theories on the creation of the Universe, Professor Stephen Hawking has said.

He had previously argued belief in a creator was not incompatible with science but in a new book, he concludes the Big Bang was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics.
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The Grand Design, part serialised in the Times, says there is no need to invoke God to set the Universe going.


"Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something," he concluded.


'Planetary conditions'
In his new book, an extract of which appears in the Times, Britain's most famous physicist sets out to contest Sir Isaac Newton's belief that the universe must have been designed by God as it could not have sprung out of chaos.


Citing the 1992 discovery of a planet orbiting a star other than our Sun, he said: "That makes the coincidences of our planetary conditions - the single Sun, the lucky combination of Earth-Sun distance and solar mass - far less remarkable, and far less compelling as evidence that the Earth was carefully designed just to please us human beings."


He adds: "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing.

"Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist.


"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."


The book was co-written by US physicist Leonard Mlodinow and is published on 9 September.


In his 1988 bestseller, A Brief History of Time, Prof Hawking appeared to accept the role of God in the creation of the Universe.


"If we discover a complete theory, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we should know the mind of God," he said.

The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.
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Atheist Creationism?

Nope, just plain ol' Physics
The Law of Gravity, which is pretty fundamental here requires no reason...it just happens

The need to apply reason and meaning to naturally occurring events is part of the human condition

Why did the apple fall of the tree?
Reason?
Or gravity?

Sinister ji,

We missed you here.

What you mentioned above is something for all to ponder, not just the Atheists.

I was joking with my Republican friend on the other day who is an evangelist. He and I have interesting conversations all the times. He has been trying to figure me out but has not succeeded yet because I do not talk about Sikhi to counter his arguments by naming it as such.

On the other day I told him, "Brett, I have news for you, I never realised that you were an Atheist".

He was taken aback and said," NO, I am not. I believe in Jesus".

I answered back that,"You belong to the party of NO, hence you are an Atheist".

We had a good laugh after that.

So, in other words, Atheism is the ism of NO.

Welcome back friend.

Regards

Tejwant Singh

Well put, Sinister,

This idea that"Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something," It raises a real problem because evolutionary theory has proven that spontaneous creation does not exist, that is the basic idea that goes against creationism and even if there are lots of debates among evolutionists, they at least agree on that as a given. Things don't just appear, there is always a cause, things evolve,etc. but once we rewind evolution to the very start, we have no choice but to fall back on the possibility of spontaneous creation. I guess we have to wait for science to come up with something that does not place it in such an embarassing contradiction.
I'm old enough to recall a time when academia disrecarded evolutionary theory and the bing-bang theory on scientific terms. There was this joke about what a theory is: a socially successful error and evolutionism was the perfect example of that. We would also be amused by the idea that while most people see themselves as descendants of gods, we see ourselves as descendants of apes...Wether religion or science, it is important to keep in mind the social, historic context. Every time the prevalent ideolgy takes a turn to the right, we see evolutionism popping up and this is quite clear today. It became very convenient for Nazi ideology. Presently our situation resembles that of the decline of the Roman empire and the early dark ages. The other day I was reading a book about that and I really had the impression of reading a newspaper, it was astonishing.