12-Sep-2008, 00:59 AM
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12-Sep-2008, 10:14 AM
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so true |
12-Sep-2008, 12:35 PM
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Well I have been to the Golden Temple once. About 8 years ago. Yes it is a fairyland because I could not believe that I am seeing it with physical eyes as most of my life I have been conditioned by beautiful expressions from others. But the real experience out does all descriptions about it. This is one place which I am going to be going back to again, this time alone. I know this time the experience will be different from the first. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23042
Thank you for the tour of devotion. I didn't pay much attention on the upkeep of the temple grounds. |
12-Sep-2008, 16:57 PM
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well Naamjaap ji..not everyone "sees" the same things...
The very first time i went there..I only saw Guru Ramdass Ji.....(Spending nights hungry because he gave away all his chholay-ghungannians free to holy men..) and nearly 40,000 people being FED in His Langgar DAILY !!! DHAN DHAN GURU RAMDASS JI !!!  Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23042
The Second time i went there I saw Guru Arjun Ji Sahib....sitting on the Hot Plate in summer....while hundreds of thousands bask in the cool waters of the Sarovar year in and year out....  Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23042
Third time I went...unfortunately i saw what the video shows....pushing and shoving..muttering bad words ( ladies in Kirpans and scarves cursing !!)..mad rush to matha tek..grab the deg as if no tomorrow..and notices advising against accepting deg from strangers in case it is poisonous...!!! poison in Harmandir ?? and whats worse..pickpockets, etc etc as well...  ...AND yes i observed the RITUALS....agaisnt Gurbani !!
I hope Fourth time..I ONLY and ONLY "see" Dhan Dhan Guru Ramdass Ji/Guru Arjun Ji sahib....
No more of all such !!!
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12-Sep-2008, 20:49 PM
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its Baba ji and Kaka ji's legacy...enjoy !! |
13-Sep-2008, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by amarsanghera  its Baba ji and Kaka ji's legacy...enjoy !! | Do you mean Baba Badal and kaka Sukhbir badal ? True..BUT the "legacy" is older...
imho it began with the... Baba Fateh Singh/Channan Singh entry...and Driver Kaka Singh Days....
Remember baba fateh Singh was so powerful he declared that even my illeterate driver can win a parliamentary seat if i say so...and he proved it by giving a seat to hsi illeterate driver..who became MP kaka singh !!
Those were the days the ROT really began to spread like wild fire....today the solid foundation is gone..everything "floats" on the smuck like the "aakkrree" weed. ( you know that green plant that spreads so thick and fast on water bodies that it almost looks "solid" enough to build on !!! During World war 2 many British Pilots landed their planes on what they thought was GRASS FIELDS..only to realise they landed on a POND full of MUCK..... we are in that situation TODAY !! FLOATING on a solid foundation !! Babas and kakas all in the same boat on the same muck.
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17-May-2010, 02:42 AM
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SSA
All the posts very true, very honest. Giyani ji's first post is very touching, cool. But I must say that title of this thread is not all right. Whatever the conditions or whoever is responsible, still "golden temple or golden shame" is not right. Its not the golden temple but the managment who is responsible. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23042Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23042
Rude or defaming words with reference to this holy place.........?
I am sure our scholers are capable of providing much better words.
bhul chuk maaf
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09-Jun-2010, 01:13 AM
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SSA to all,
First of all, The name Golden temple isnot the correct Name. It is Harmandir Sahib or Darbar Sahib. Also, Such words "Shame" sense like derogatory remarks to a venerable Place. Please Change the Heading, It sounds insulting. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23042Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23042
Management can be a shame but dont associate the word with the Darbar sahib. When you say Darbar Sahib, you are addressing Guru Ramdas. So Mind the word.
Request admin to review the Heading and if needed, please rectify. |
09-Jun-2010, 03:50 AM
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The reason why the thread title is what it is... it is based on the title of the YouTube videos that begin the thread. The title is not a reflection of SPN or of the individual who began the thread, almost 2 years ago.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23042
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23042
Your points however are well-taken. If you have an idea for a title that gets to the crux of the problem but is not derogatory in your view, let me know. it is possible to change the title. | 
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