07-Jun-2007, 19:53 PM
|  | | | | Enrolled: May 18th, 2007 Location: India..
Posts: 97
| | Adherent: Seeking HIS blessings trying to develop faith Of sikhism again
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
| |  | | | Fragmentation Of Sikh souls
Dear Jeo, As per the scriptures it is told that the soul is industructible and that we are all part of the soul till we merge with the Super-soul. However, a basic question that sometimes bother is 'as the populatioon of this world is increasing there must be additional soul's produced with every increase of the human beings , Is it due to the fragmentation of the existing souls or it is due to some additions made to the existing souls?Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/general-discussion/15652-fragmentation-of-sikh-souls.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15652 A mystery ,you may like to solve for me if you know. Your opinion is very valuable to me. 
 Do share your immediate thoughts or reactions on this issue? We value your views! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views with us.. Gurfateh!
__________________ <siq nwmu krqw purKu inrBau inrvYru Akwl mUriq AjUnI sYBM gur pRswid ]
|
07-Jun-2007, 23:16 PM
|  | (simpy previously Surinder Kaur Cheema) | | | Enrolled: Mar 28th, 2006
Posts: 1,133
| |
Liked 115 Times in 55 Posts
| |  | | | Re: Fragmentation Of Sikh souls
Dear and Respected luv4u ji, First of all can you explain what do you mean by the fragmentation of Sikh Souls. all this seems bogus after reading all the posts you have posted at SPN so far including respected Hukamnamas.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15652 humbly asking for your forgiveness |
07-Jun-2007, 23:23 PM
|  | | | | Enrolled: May 31st, 2007
Posts: 81
| | | | | |  Re: Fragmentation Of Sikh souls
Quote:
Originally Posted by Surinder Kaur Cheema  Dear and Respected luv4u ji,
First of all can you explain what do you mean by the fragmentation of Sikh Souls.
all this seems bogus after reading all the posts you have posted at SPN so far including respected Hukamnamas.
humbly asking for your forgiveness | I fully agree with Surinder kaur(The princess of Guru) that question posted is baseless to be answered.We need better question to be posted n answered.Thanks.good job Surinder kaur(The Guru's princess).keep it up.
|
07-Jun-2007, 23:29 PM
| | | | | Enrolled: May 18th, 2007 Location: India..
Posts: 97
| | Adherent: Seeking HIS blessings trying to develop faith Of sikhism again
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
| | | | | Re: Fragmentation Of Sikh souls
Thanks for your nice comments. Nothing is Bogus and none has the time for it. As I happen to be on Computer I shall answer you right away. As the population is increasing the number of souls will also be increasing, it stands to logic that the existing souls are either expanding to cover the increased population or are being fragmented to meet the objective. Hope I am clear.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15652 What is Princess of Guru? Never Heard of this word in Gurbani.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15652 Thanks for making the Hukumnama more useful. |
08-Jun-2007, 05:03 AM
| | | | | Enrolled: May 31st, 2007
Posts: 81
| | | | | | Re: Fragmentation Of Sikh souls
Quote:
Originally Posted by luv4u Thanks for your nice comments. Nothing is Bogus and none has the time for it.
As I happen to be on Computer I shall answer you right away. As the population is increasing the number of souls will also be increasing, it stands to logic that the existing souls are either expanding to cover the increased population or are being fragmented to meet the objective. Hope I am clear.
What is Princess of Guru? Never Heard of this word in Gurbani.
Thanks for making the Hukumnama more useful. | Dear Freind Luv4U ur question is really not bogus but unanswerable for a human being.Only the God himself knows what he is doing n maybe there is an answer available in gurbani but not sure though.Ur question is beyond the scope of human knowledge.
Anyway all r children of Waheguru n all beloved kaurs r princess daughters of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Who created Singhs n Kaurs as Khalsas And so I said Kaur- a princess of Guru.
Sat Shri Akal
|
08-Jun-2007, 07:00 AM
|  | | | | Enrolled: Aug 12th, 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 7
Posts: 159
| | | |  | | | Re: Fragmentation Of Sikh souls
Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh
The soul...hmmmm.
If im not mistaken we go through 8.4 million lives before coming to this one( a Human being)... and so our soul basically travels through all of these different lives right?
Now assuming that there are no "new" souls being produces, but just more souls being given the chance to live in human form, then there would be no fragmentation, as nothing "new" is being produced. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15652
Like Fivelovedones said, Only God knows the Truth about the answer. But i hope my andwer may have helped just a bit Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15652
Bhul Chuk maaf Karna Ji
Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh |
08-Jun-2007, 09:01 AM
| | (simpy previously Surinder Kaur Cheema) | | | Enrolled: Mar 28th, 2006
Posts: 1,133
| |
Liked 115 Times in 55 Posts
| | | | | Re: Fragmentation Of Sikh souls
Respected truthseeker Ji, and FiveLovedOnes Ji, Truthseeker ji your answer is very clear. There is no soul fragmentation. Divine Jot is ONE. residing in every one(indivisble). Human life is given based on karm(karmi aavey kapra). then-punni papi aakhan nahee kar kar karna likh le jah aapey beej aapey hee khah...as well - nadri mokh duaar... mwxs jnmu dulµBu hY jg mih KitAw Awie ] rMgI rMgI BwqI kir kir ijnsI mwieAw ijin aupweI ] kir kir dyKY kIqw Awpxw ijau iqs dI vifAweI ] jo iqsu BwvY soeI krsI iPir hukmu n krxw jweI ] so pwiqswhu swhw piqswihbu nwnk rhxu rjweI ] Awvxu jwxw sBu clqu qumwrw ] kir kir dyKY Kylu Apwrw ] Awip aupwey aupwvxhwrw Apxw kIAw pwlxw ] If we read all the posts by luv4u ji. He/She has mentioned this fact in his/her other posts. Gurbani tells us about this again and again. Anybody who does Nitnem everyday, can understand this easily(provided actualy doing it attentively). The question our respected luv4u ji is posing sounds bogus to me as a question but it is interesting though, as it makes one think what Guru Ji says. Thanks a lot luv4u ji, you have brought us more close to Guru Ji by starting this thread. and again it is something that can make Gursikhs to ponder on Gurbani more and more, as many must be wondering about this and as this thread is proceeding, many may start paying more attention to what they read in Nitnem as well as while listening /doing Kirtan..... Me neech thinks that here is no question of fragmentation when we believe that GOD IS ONE, HE IS ALL AND ALL IS HIM. BRAHM MAIN JAN JAN MAIN PARBRAHM, SABH KICH GHAR MAIN BAHAR NAAHEE, JO BRAHMUNDEY SOI PINDEY......Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15652 one can go on and on with Gurbani on this oneness........................ anyways we cannot make somebody believe something, Waheguru dear and respected luv4u ji nu sumat bakhshan...... Dhan Dhan Guru Sahib has not left any possibilty for such a question to be raised, me neech(Guru's Princess) thinks.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15652 humbly asking for everybody's forgiveness.  |
08-Jun-2007, 12:18 PM
| | | | | Enrolled: Feb 19th, 2007 Location: Delhi India Age: 63
Posts: 498
| |
Liked 878 Times in 350 Posts
| | | | | Re: Fragmentation Of Sikh souls
Quote:
Originally Posted by luv4u Dear Jeo,
As per the scriptures it is told that the soul is industructible and that we are all part of the soul till we merge with the Super-soul. However, a basic question that sometimes bother is 'as the populatioon of this world is increasing there must be additional soul's produced with every increase of the human beings , Is it due to the fragmentation of the existing souls or it is due to some additions made to the existing souls?
A mystery ,you may like to solve for me if you know. Your opinion is very valuable to me. | I am too small and ignorant to engage in such a discussion. But I would humbly recommend reading of the incomparable "Guru Nanak Chamatkar" by Bhai Vir Singh to get nearer to such ultimate truths.
I would, with my very limited intelligence like to say that none of us can get to the ultimate truth, for if we could then we would became equal to HIM and that would be the end of our existance in our present form! |
08-Jun-2007, 13:26 PM
| | | | | Enrolled: May 27th, 2007 Age: 29
Posts: 94
| | | | | | | Re: Fragmentation Of Sikh souls
Quote:
Originally Posted by harbansj24 I am too small and ignorant to engage in such a discussion. But I would humbly recommend reading of the incomparable "Guru Nanak Chamatkar" by Bhai Vir Singh to get nearer to such ultimate truths.
I would, with my very limited intelligence like to say that none of us can get to the ultimate truth, for if we could then we would became equal to HIM and that would be the end of our existance in our present form! | Veer ji, Thanks for rersponding. It is nice and appropriate reply. However, you do agree that in Kalyug there is an increase in the population of mankind. Hence the souls of other Junis are getting transferred if nothiong else is to change. Could you kindly let me know the site from where the above book would be available.? | 
Support Us! Become a Promoter! | | Gurfateh ji, you can become a SPN Promoter by Donating as little as $10 each month. With limited resources & high operational costs, your donations make it possible for us to deliver a quality website and spread the teachings of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to serve & uplift humanity. Every contribution counts. Donate Generously. Gurfateh! |
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | | | Tools | Search | | | | | Display Modes |  Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
| | | |   » Gurbani Jukebox |  Listen to Gurbani while surfing SPN! | | » Active Discussions | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | » Books You Should Read... | | | |
