Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh.

One of the best reference articles i have read for a long time. Congrats to Randip Singh, the Author. Sikhi needs to be distanced from this vegetarian-non vege debate as it is causing a serious divide where there is NONE.
All the Tuks are taken out of context and misinterpreted - sometimes intentionally. Gurmatt doesnt have any restrictions on diet.

Jarnail Singh Gyani Arshi

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igAwnI jrnYl isMG iF`lo "ArSI" mlySIAw

Thanks for the kind words and the constructive comments you have made. Hopefully this will sink into the brains of some of our Sikhs who have taken a very narrow view on this matter.

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Randip Singh
Sikh History Website

"Let no man be proud because of his caste/race (Jaat).
For the man who has God in his heart, he alone is the true Brahmin.
O stupid fool, be not proud of your caste/race (Jaat), by this pride many sins arise.
Everyone says there are four castes/races (Jaat), but they are all created from the Lords seed (essence).
All men are moulded from the same clay, but the potter has fashioned it into vessels of numerous forms.
By joining the five elements, the form of the body is made, no one can say that the element is less in one and more in another" Pg 1128 SGGS

I would also encourage people to e-mail this to fellow Sikhs. Print it off to and distribute it.

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Randip Singh
Sikh History Website

"Let no man be proud because of his caste/race (Jaat).
For the man who has God in his heart, he alone is the true Brahmin.
O stupid fool, be not proud of your caste/race (Jaat), by this pride many sins arise.
Everyone says there are four castes/races (Jaat), but they are all created from the Lords seed (essence).
All men are moulded from the same clay, but the potter has fashioned it into vessels of numerous forms.
By joining the five elements, the form of the body is made, no one can say that the element is less in one and more in another" Pg 1128 SGGS

Gurfateh.
I have taken the liberty to post it on many Forums where i am a memeber.... SikhsSydney@Yahoogroups.com, ANZ-Sikhs@Yahoogroups.com, SikhYouth@Yahoogroups.com, Sikhnation@Yahoogroups.com....and many more readers are encouraged to join some of these and post comments as well. We have to reach a wider audience to spread Genuine Sikhi/Gurmatt...instead of the Hotch potch Brahminism vedic philospohy being spread by the Derawallahs for their own benefit.

JSGyani

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Gurfateh

not just Dera Wallah but some people who want to bring thier jatt vegism into the faith.As in Haryana,UP etc Jaats are very stouch veggis and thier attitdude lead to elmination of Arya Samaj in those Areas.

Das would like to add another thing that Brahmins often are profound meat eaters more in North India and Pakistan.Thier books are ful of animal sacrifise.

and in south India also Brahmins eat all type of non veg ,more in Tamil and Kerala area.Vaishnavs or veggis Brahmins are more in Andhra,Gujrat,Assam etc.Again in Bengal they do not consider fish as non veg.

Brahmin Dharama is abased upon yagana and in that Violence or Hinsa is must and so they carry out sacrifises.Similar things are there in jews and Muslims and then came to tradtions of Nihungs and Hajur Sahib.Perhaps when Guru says that Meat is in Puranas and Kateebs(Var Malar),then he just wants to say that other faiths also endorse his views.

Thanks.

The more forums the better.

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Randip Singh
Sikh History Website

"Let no man be proud because of his caste/race (Jaat).
For the man who has God in his heart, he alone is the true Brahmin.
O stupid fool, be not proud of your caste/race (Jaat), by this pride many sins arise.
Everyone says there are four castes/races (Jaat), but they are all created from the Lords seed (essence).
All men are moulded from the same clay, but the potter has fashioned it into vessels of numerous forms.
By joining the five elements, the form of the body is made, no one can say that the element is less in one and more in another" Pg 1128 SGGS

Gurfateh
Das saw another shamefull thing.
Some guys were oppsed to say uasge of Sikh symbols in butcher shops or tape records in butcher Shops.

So das was only thinking that we had Sadhna verse onto whome came from akal and are recorded in Guru Granth Sahib.If Akal can send Bani to butcher so who are we to stop?

I don't think this work was designed as an attack on vegetarians. Infact it was prepared in consultation with vegetarian Sikhs.

Animal sacrifice, whether it be Hindu, Muslim or whatever religion is seen as a form of apeasement....an action a apologist would take. Sikhs are not apologists or appeasers but try and take the path of Justice, Truth and Freedom. They don't try and run other down, and neither do they allow themsekves to be run down.

We can blame external forces to an extent for dividing the Paanth, but we must get our own house in order first. This essay is one small step I hope in doing that.

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Randip Singh
Sikh History Website

"Let no man be proud because of his caste/race (Jaat).
For the man who has God in his heart, he alone is the true Brahmin.
O stupid fool, be not proud of your caste/race (Jaat), by this pride many sins arise.
Everyone says there are four castes/races (Jaat), but they are all created from the Lords seed (essence).
All men are moulded from the same clay, but the potter has fashioned it into vessels of numerous forms.
By joining the five elements, the form of the body is made, no one can say that the element is less in one and more in another" Pg 1128 SGGS

Gurfateh

Dear bro,

soory for misinterpetations if any.Das never meant that you are attacking veggis rather deem das as your allie to attack vegtrianism.Das just wanted to say that in Genral not All Brahmins are veggis.In fact only Vaishnavites one are only like that.

Das got habit to eat meat daily only after lving in a Tamil Brahmin family for two years.Else das use to eat meat once in a weak.And they did serve beef to das.With then only das first time ate non jhatka machine killed meat.

Das thinks that it is halal that is not allwed and all types of meat can be eatern otherwise.As per Kahan Singh Nabha Also shoked to kill or hunted one can be eaten.

i agree with you we should give them Sikh perspective first. as the article is very long we should not add practical arguements.anyway i posted the article on sikhportal.com

vijaydeep singh ji just a question for you.what are the views of arya samaj,nirankari ,followers of ashutosh,on meat eating.

vijaydeep singh ji just a question for you.what are the views of arya samaj,nirankari ,followers of ashutosh,on meat eating.