thank you, it's an entertain read, but i'm not interested in propaganda. Singh Sabha international canada is a known anti-dasam granth propaganda machine run by the heretic Ghagga.
lest there be any confusion (and i'm sure the name is intended to bring about confusion) it is not affiliated with the better known Singh Sabha movement in India or with the Singh Sabha gurdwaras in the US. Ghagga's "Singh Sabha" has been denounced and ghagga and kala afghana are banned from the premises of most US and Canadian Gurdwaras. not to mention the fact that they are too cowardly to even enter India, even after being summoned by akal takht.

check the websites they link to:

kala afghana
fateh publications (Ghagga's site)
spokesman (publisher of this magazine is excommunicated from the panth, another kala afghana supporter)
the Sikh buletin (reading the editorial on the first page shows that they're clearly in the kala afghana/ghagga camp)

though i do thank you for the link. the articles are fascinating, if a bit shocking. i didn't realize you guys are also against Giani Sant Maskeen ji, Harbajan Singh Yogi, Bhai Randir Singh ji, 3HO, AKJ, and Nanaksar. i never realized that using a mala to aid in recitation of mantras/banis/naam simran was "idol worship" before i read this site. it was interesting to learn that Guru Nanak Dev ji never entered the river Beas.

i'm still going through the articles to see what other fascinating propaganda they're distributing.

fateh!

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We don't have 5-10 people. We got lots more than that. 5-10 are the main guys. Hahahaha! Singhsabhacanada.com is a wicked site. It exposes fakes and promotes Guru Granth Sahib Ji. I don't know about Ghagga not being allowed on stages because Ghagga recently gave a speech on stage controlled by Gyani Joginder Singh Vedanti who is Jathaydar Akaal Takht. If you don't believe me, ask newspapers from Punjab.

Dear

International Akali's ( Randeep Singh)
Khalsa Fauj(Harmanjit Singh.)

Thanks for your efforts online and offline as well.

I appreciate the work you are doing ( Although I know little ..)
from what I have understood that your observations and understanding tell you that Dasam Granth is Anti Gurmat .

You might also know that this views of yours are held by Minority in Sikh Population and there are many others who believe otherwise and you have every right to believe that you and your friends are right or may be blessed with your right Thinking .

In my observation everybody on the spirtual journey is blessed with the different understand as the journey goes on and things become more clear as the God want it to be .

So my request is just that you may be having better understanding of the gurmat but there should be no reason for any body to believe that their version is superior I dont think its going to help anybody and I saying this for both Anti Dasam Granth and Pro Dasam Granth .

The best we could do is let the others know what your veiw point is and I thinki you have done a good job there .


Thanks

Jatinder Singh

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Jatinder singh ji

I totally agree with you.I am not a full dasam granth supporter but still i am against putting gun on the heads of pro dasam granth people.There is no way one side can convince other about their views

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Would anyone care to review and comment what this guy's saying ?

Is he anti-dasam granth ?

YouTube - Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji Seminar - Prof Devinder Singh

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Jasleen kaur,

How can you find such writings such as dasam granth as entertaining? Those articles dont give you any sort of hurt when you read that this is in the name of guru gobind singh. Why are you talking about political stuff we are talking about dasam granth here the topic is not Prof. Inder Singh Ghaagga and not Gurbuksh Singh Kala Afghana. Its not like you have ever read eithers works so how can you even be constructive in there writings.

Follow only Guru Granth sahib ji and not some so called sants. Please refer to Guru Granth sahib ji:

Please refer to gurshabad for the following for the views of guru sahib on mala.

Matai Tilak Haat Mala bana

Logan Raam Khilona Jana

Page 1148

Translation:

You have tilak on your head, your holding a mala in your hand.
People have considred your raam as a game.

Simple translation.

This incorporates with us sikhs too we see sadhs and so called sants wearing malas over there hands when guru sahib is clear on what he thinks of mala. We have even given guru sahib a mala in various pictures that have been dipicting his image. Which is Contry to in gur shabad.

[quote=International Akaali;69278]Jasleen kaur,
it's not dasam granth that's so entertaining, it's the way the article are written. they sound like brainwashed babbling.

i do, thanks.

so because guru criticizes a hypocritical brahman and mentions the word mala, then no Sikh should ever use one?

can you post the complete shabad? i can't seem to find it on the page you mentioned.

i can find a shabad to prove or disprove anything. read the WHOLE shabad for meaning, not just one line. understand the context, the history, don't base your religion on a line here and a line there.

you guys take everything so literally. next thing you know you'll be trying to erase the word raam and bhagat bani from SGGS for being "pro hindu".

the funny thing is... i haven't done enough personal research and study to say whether i believe the WHOLE thing is bani of the 10th master. though i respect the opinions of the historians and scholars who have...

but i cannot sit here while people insult amrit banis, Guru Gobind Singh ji, Akal Takht, and Amrit Sanchar itself. so i guess i'll learn more and more in order to show that this kala afghana cult is simply wrong.

ok guys, it's been educational, but i guess it's probably a pointless discussion to have with kala afghana follwers, so i think i'll stop discussing dasam granth and concentrate on improving my life.

(bowing out gracefully)

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There are no kala afgana followers here. This is your misconception. Also, Bhagat Bani is not pro Hindu at all. You have been fed this information to spread propaganda against GurSikhs who oppose dasam granth. Bhagat Bani rejects Hinduvaad and promotes Gurmat. Who told you that bhagat bani is pro Hindu? This is a blatant lie and I know this comment came from someone else and not you. I also know who this comment came from but I won't mention name here. Ram means rammeyaa meaning prevading in all. Not some Ram Chandar who had issues with Ravan.

It is not only using one line, but also interpreting the line which is important. Some people make aarths into anarths and make it seem as if Gurbani contradicts. Some fools even place a question mark on mool mantar with their interpretations. Interpretations of Gurbani have to be based on Gurmat and so that it doesn't contradict mool mantar. E.g. If mool mantar says God has no shape then there should be no translations saying God has conch, etc. etc.

What is Kachi Bani
Katha in Punjabi:

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The thread is meant to enhance the knowledge about Dasam Granth.Personally speaking I would have great respect for this.But the problem is that there is no site from where one can download it and read it with english translation. Anyone can advise.It should not only be in gurmukhi but should have english translation as well.

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