Taking Amrit and After taking Amrit

Ok thanks for putting what I was trying to say, in better words. That's what I meant.

 
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Duplicate post all taken care of.

I just read 2 earlier debates about sikh women and dastar on sikhnet where inputs were provided by knowledgable persons and not even a single person said that dastar was mandatory for women for taking amrit
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Also these days many sikh sites are publishing not so reliable facts to promote their agenda .

I just read 2 earlier debates about sikh women and dastar on sikhnet where inputs were provided by knowledgable persons and not even a single person said that dastar was mandatory for women for taking amrit

Also these days many sikh sites are publishing not so reliable facts to promote their agenda .

a google search on S. Shamsher Singh" shows him to be a researcher and historian... probably a knowledgeable person.

just because it's not said on SPN doesn't mean it's not true.

but i'll look for more evidence. i too had never heard of it until today.

Here is the portrait of Mata sundri ji





It is without dastar


The main question is if dastar was mandatory for women then why just it vanished from
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14775
sikh society until it was revived by akj and some other jatha's.The sikh's were spread in large area of india and if dastar vanished from one area due to some circumstances even then it could have survived in other area's.I simply cannot beleive that sikh women wearing dastar's just vanished from sikh society.
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The Sikhism Home Page: The Khalsa
Dastar:
Turban. A symbol of royalty and dignity. Historically the turban has been held in high esteem in eastern and middle eastern cultures. Guru Gobind Singh transformed this cultural symbol into a religious requirement so that the Khalsa would always have high self-esteem. It differentiates Sikhs from other religious followers who keep long hair but wear caps or keep matted hair. The turban cannot be covered by any other head gear or replaced by a cap or hat. The turban is mandatory for Sikh men and optional for Sikh women.
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So I think we should accept that it is optional for women and if sikh women feel's
stronger in dastar then they have every right to wear it but if sikh women want's to cover their head in chunni then too have right to do it.

that's a nice painting. who painted it? what year? were they working from menory? a description of her? or were they painting what they thought she should look like a hundred years after her death?

ok, first, i never said it was required. you're the one who said women shouldn't wear it (according to your grandmother). yes, rehet says it's optional. i encourage it because i love the way it feels and so does every other kaur i've met who wears one.


also, descriptions and paintings of sikh women in battle showed them in dastaar. my guess would be that for riding horses into battle, a chunni is simply not enough to keep the head covered (it's hardly enough in daily life, let alone riding a horse!) so it's only natural to assume the women would wear a dastaar like the men. however, since the vast majority of sikh women did not fight in battles, they probably didn't see any need to wear it.

btw, i got a confirmation on the akal takht issue... my husband's family has been in amritsar for a couple hundred years. according to his father, women of his grandmother's generation did have to wear dastaars to take amrit at akal takht. however, most of them did not continue to wear the dastaar after the amrit ceremony.

You are right it could be the imagination of painter

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