Sign Up |  Live StatsLive Stats    Articles 34,880| Comments 154,854| Members 17,230, Newest IronSingh25| Online 264
Home Contact
 (Forgotten?): 
    Sikhism

   
                                                                     Your Banner Here!    

 
 
  
  
Sikh Philosophy Network » Sikh Philosophy Network » Guru Granth Darpan » Discourses in English » Pg 484 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - Meaning?

Pg 484 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - Meaning?

Our Donation Goal : Why Donate? : Donate Today! : Donate Anonymously (ਗੁਪਤ) : Our Family of Supporters
Goal this month: 400 USD, Received: 25 USD (6%)
Please Donate...
Related Topics...
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sants Dethrone Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji from Palki Sahib (Punjabi) spnadmin Punjabi: Breaking News 1 26-Mar-2011 10:30 AM
Scientific Vision of Guru Nanak Dev in Guru Granth Sahib H.S.VIRK Sikh Sikhi Sikhism 25 06-Jan-2011 23:06 PM


Tags
484, granth, guru, meaning, sahib, sri
Reply Post New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-Jul-2006, 06:32 AM
kaur-1's Avatar kaur-1 kaur-1 is offline
 
Enrolled: Jul 10th, 2006
Posts: 920
kaur-1 will become famous soon enough
   
Adherent: Gur Sikhi
Thanks: 159
Thanked 43 Times in 32 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Pg 484 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - Meaning?

  Donate Today!   Email to Friend  Tell a Friend   Show Printable Version  Print   Contact sikhphilosophy.net Administraion for any Suggestions, Ideas, Feedback.  Feedback  

Register to Remove Advertisements
WJKK WJKF

RE: Ang 484 in Sri Guru Granth Sahib JiJ www.searchgurbani.com

http://www.searchgurbani.com/main.ph...ge=484&submit=


What is the actual meaning?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/discourses-in-english/9073-pg-484-sri-guru-granth-sahib.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=9073

Why is Kabir talking about his daughter-in-law? Is it a metaphor?

Could anyone please explain what the whole page is actually stating. The obvious I understand.



 
Do share your immediate thoughts or reactions on this issue? We value your views! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views with us.. Gurfateh!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-Jul-2006, 10:25 AM
kds1980's Avatar kds1980 kds1980 is offline
(previously Kanwardeep Singh)
 
Enrolled: Apr 4th, 2005
Location: INDIA
Age: 31
Posts: 4,257
kds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond repute
   
Adherent: Sikhism
Thanks: 332
Thanked 2,372 Times in 1,233 Posts
    Nationality: India
Re: Pg 484 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - Meaning?

i read the translation of pro sahib singh of this shabad
http://www.gurugranthdarpan.com/0484.html

the whole shabad is like this


Page 484

Awsw ] (484-1)
aasaa.
Aasaa:

myrI bhurIAw ko DnIAw nwau ] (484-1, Awsw, Bgq kbIr jI)
mayree bahuree-aa ko Dhanee-aa naa-o.
My daughter-in-law was first called Dhannia, the woman of wealth,

ly rwiKE rwm jnIAw nwau ]1] (484-1, Awsw, Bgq kbIr jI)
lay raakhi-o raam janee-aa naa-o. ||1||
but now she is called Raam-jannia, the servant of the Lord. ||1||

ien@ muMfIAn myrw Gru DuMDrwvw ] (484-1, Awsw, Bgq kbIr jI)
inH mundee-an mayraa ghar DhunDhraavaa.
These shaven-headed saints have ruined my house.

ibtvih rwm rmaUAw lwvw ]1] rhwau ] (484-2, Awsw, Bgq kbIr jI)
bitvahi raam ram-oo-aa laavaa. ||1|| rahaa-o.
They have caused my son to start chanting the Lord's Name. ||1||Pause||
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=9073

khqu kbIr sunhu myrI mweI ] (484-2, Awsw, Bgq kbIr jI)
kahat kabeer sunhu mayree maa-ee.
Says Kabeer, listen, O mother:

ien@ muMfIAn myrI jwiq gvweI ]2]3]33] (484-3, Awsw, Bgq kbIr jI)
inH mundee-an mayree jaat gavaa-ee. ||2||3||33||
these shaven-headed saints have done away with my low social status. ||2||3||33||

Awsw ] (484-3)

according to him the first four lines of this shabad is from mother of kabeer ji .she is saying that her son was attached to wealth.but after joining the sangat of saints her son is now attached to name of lord.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=9073

if you can read punjabi i advise read you to the translation of the shabad
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-Jul-2006, 15:51 PM
drkhalsa's Avatar drkhalsa drkhalsa is offline
 
Enrolled: Sep 16th, 2004
Age: 31
Posts: 1,345
drkhalsa will become famous soon enough
   
Adherent: Sikhism
Thanks: 0
Thanked 38 Times in 23 Posts
    Nationality: United Nations
Re: Pg 484 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - Meaning?

Dear Kaur -1 and KDS1980 Ji



I think there has been some mistake in your reading teeka of Prof Sahib Singh

Quote:
according to him the first four lines of this shabad is from mother of kabeer ji .she is saying that her son was attached to wealth.but after joining the sangat of saints her son is now attached to name of lord.


Acoording to Prof Sahib Singh Ji All the Lines in this shabad are written by Kabir Himself and he does not support the above version in which it is thought that first four lines are written by Mother of Bhagat Kabir Ji



word bahuree-aa

Means BRIDE /NEW BRIDE and here it refers to SOUL BRIDE


word Dhanee-aa

is not name instead it means WEALTHY and here it refers to attachment of soul bride to wealth


word bitvahi means CHILD and refers to Unknowing Childish Mind


So in this shabd Kabir Ji is Just singing the praise of lord and appreciating the change that has occured in his life

Kabir Ji refer to his soul bride that it was attached to Wealth ( so named it Wealthy ) and now it is attached to GOD ( so named it raam Raam-jannia) and also states that his new companions which has attached him to name of lord has also made his social status go away which refers to elevation above wordly distinction in castes .


This is what I understood of the translation and hope it helps



Jatinder Singh
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-Jul-2006, 20:04 PM
kds1980's Avatar kds1980 kds1980 is offline
(previously Kanwardeep Singh)
 
Enrolled: Apr 4th, 2005
Location: INDIA
Age: 31
Posts: 4,257
kds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond reputekds1980 has a reputation beyond repute
   
Adherent: Sikhism
Thanks: 332
Thanked 2,372 Times in 1,233 Posts
    Nationality: India
Re: Pg 484 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - Meaning?

Quote:
Originally Posted by drkhalsa
Dear Kaur -1 and KDS1980 Ji
I think there has been some mistake in your reading teeka of Prof Sahib Singh
Acoording to Prof Sahib Singh Ji All the Lines in this shabad are written by Kabir Himself and he does not support the above version in which it is thought that first four lines are written by Mother of Bhagat Kabir Ji
word bahuree-aa
Means BRIDE /NEW BRIDE and here it refers to SOUL BRIDE
word Dhanee-aa
is not name instead it means WEALTHY and here it refers to attachment of soul bride to wealth
word bitvahi means CHILD and refers to Unknowing Childish Mind
So in this shabd Kabir Ji is Just singing the praise of lord and appreciating the change that has occured in his life
Kabir Ji refer to his soul bride that it was attached to Wealth ( so named it Wealthy ) and now it is attached to GOD ( so named it raam Raam-jannia) and also states that his new companions which has attached him to name of lord has also made his social status go away which refers to elevation above wordly distinction in castes .
This is what I understood of the translation and hope it helps
Jatinder Singh
i agree with it.i have a mistake while reading translation.thanks for correction.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-Jul-2006, 22:02 PM
kaur-1's Avatar kaur-1 kaur-1 is offline
 
Enrolled: Jul 10th, 2006
Posts: 920
kaur-1 will become famous soon enough
   
Adherent: Gur Sikhi
Thanks: 159
Thanked 43 Times in 32 Posts
    Nationality: United Kingdom
Re: Ang 484 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - Meaning?

Thank you for the explaination. Much appreciated.

Second shabad sung amazingly in the ransbhai by Bhai Apardeep Singh is from Ang 484.


http://akj.org/multimedia/Vancouver/...vanr043sat.mp3


Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=9073
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 30-Jul-2007, 16:27 PM
Astroboy's Avatar Astroboy Astroboy is offline
ਨਾਮ ਤੇਰੇ ਕੀ ਜੋਤਿ ਲਗਾਈ (Previously namjap)
 
Enrolled: Jul 14th, 2007
Posts: 4,384
Astroboy has a brilliant futureAstroboy has a brilliant futureAstroboy has a brilliant futureAstroboy has a brilliant futureAstroboy has a brilliant futureAstroboy has a brilliant futureAstroboy has a brilliant futureAstroboy has a brilliant futureAstroboy has a brilliant futureAstroboy has a brilliant futureAstroboy has a brilliant futureAstroboy has a brilliant future
   
Adherent: Sikhi
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 1,224
Thanked 1,307 Times in 771 Posts
    Nationality: Malaysia
Re: Pg 484 of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji - Meaning?

  Donate Today!  
This might be off topic and yet.........
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=9073

YouTube - Bhai Joginder Singh Riaar - Amrit Bani Har Har Teri
Reply With Quote
   Click Here to Donate Now!

Support Us!
Become a Promoter!
Gurfateh ji, you can become a SPN Promoter by Donating as little as $10 each month. With limited resources & high operational costs, your donations make it possible for us to deliver a quality website and spread the teachings of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, to serve & uplift humanity. Every contribution counts. Donate Generously. Gurfateh!
ReplyPost New Topic In This Forum Stay Connected to Sikhism, Click Here to Register Now!

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Tools Search
Search:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Gurbani Jukebox
Listen to Gurbani while surfing SPN!
» Recent Discussions
sikhism Are Nihangs: A Legacy...
Today 07:34 AM
14 Replies, 251 Views
sikhism Fools Who Wrangle Over...
Today 07:07 AM
914 Replies, 77,870 Views
sikhism Meditate - How, What,...
Today 06:42 AM
40 Replies, 1,134 Views
sikhism Sukhmani Sahib Astpadi 8...
Today 06:38 AM
0 Replies, 3 Views
sikhism Benti Chaupai - Keertan...
Today 04:47 AM
11 Replies, 216 Views
sikhism Is Hindu/Sikh a Valid...
Today 02:20 AM
82 Replies, 1,453 Views
sikhism Undercover Mosque
Today 01:10 AM
0 Replies, 36 Views
sikhism Incidental Happiness...
Yesterday 23:00 PM
0 Replies, 53 Views
sikhism Amazing truth!
Yesterday 22:20 PM
0 Replies, 57 Views
sikhism Black money: Indians...
Yesterday 21:40 PM
1 Replies, 48 Views
sikhism Sikh temple brawl a...
Yesterday 20:33 PM
0 Replies, 55 Views
sikhism Turban Cloth
Yesterday 20:32 PM
3 Replies, 101 Views
sikhism A village where every...
Yesterday 19:12 PM
0 Replies, 44 Views
Why have Sikhs Changed...
Yesterday 18:12 PM
34 Replies, 1,168 Views
Scientists cure cancer,...
By Kamala
Yesterday 14:09 PM
7 Replies, 124 Views
» Books You Should Read...
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT +6.5. The time now is 07:34 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.5.2 Copyright © 2004-12, All Rights Reserved. Sikh Philosophy Network


Page generated in 0.41398 seconds with 29 queries