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Old 25-Feb-2006, 01:25 AM
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Recently, I heard of this expression “Ik Omkar”, I already know the other one “Ik Onkar”, however, what is the difference between this one and “omkar”
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/discourses-in-english/8304-ek-omkar.html

Someone said it was the true word, I don’t know.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8304

Can anyone explain?

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Old 25-Feb-2006, 12:18 PM
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Re: Ek "omkar" ????

The word is Oankaar....because this word occurs in Gurbani...but not "omkaar" meaning there is no such word. The Hindu word is OM - not omkaar...Guru Ji "invented" the open OORRa as KAAR...and coined the enw word oankaar and added EK befoe it.
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Guru ji saya Oankaar brahma utpat...so lets take Guru Ji's WORD for the cprrect pronounciation of EK Oankaar
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Old 26-Feb-2006, 09:27 AM
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Re: Ek "omkar" ????

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yea, it's Onkaar not Omkaar. I heard that too, while I was in india a couple of years ago during my mumma ji's wedding. But, for sure it's onkaar
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Re: Ek "omkar" ????

There are two ways it is pronounced. Most of the time it is pronounced ek oankaar. But a few times it is spelled out ekankaar as in Mehela Gatha, ang (pg) 1361 see ekankaar naam or dharang. But in Ramkali somewhere it is spelled out ek oankar utpat.
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Re: Ek "omkar" ????

Kaur ji,

I see some writings as Ik-Ong-Kaar too. Do you know any basis for that. I am used to pronounce this as Ik-oankaar though.
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Re: Ek "omkar" ????

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Kaur ji,

I see some writings as Ik-Ong-Kaar too. Do you know any basis for that. I am used to pronounce this as Ik-oankaar though.

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there is a tippi which is "n" sound...no g sound. so logically it is Oan-kaar

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Re: Ek "omkar" ????

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there is a tippi which is "n" sound...no g sound. so logically it is Oan-kaar

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Re: Ek "omkar" ????

Thanks for the clarification, so it's "Ek Onkar", without a m.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8304

BTW, what's the meaning?
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Re: Ek "omkar" ????

This is the Unique symbol of the ONE UNIVERSAL CREATOR...GOD.
The Word begins with OORRA..the FIRST Letter of the Gurmukhi Alphabet....signifying GOD comes FIRST...then the OORRAA is OPEN..and Extended wide without End...signifying GOD has no End..and takes in everything Under Him...and to further EMPHASISE the ONE...Guru Ji added the Numeral EK - ONE before the open oorraa...
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=8304
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Thats as far as my limited understanding goes..others may wish to addtheir own comments..

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There are two ways it is pronounced. Most of the time it is pronounced ek oankaar. But a few times it is spelled out ekankaar as in Mehela Gatha, ang (pg) 1361 see ekankaar naam or dharang. But in Ramkali somewhere it is spelled out ek oankar utpat.
This is the first i've heard of it!

If it's in india well i'm not really surprised, the brahman are always out to bring Sikhs into the 'hindu fold just another way of them saying 'look it's omkaar'
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