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25-02-2006, 12:25 AM
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Ek Omkar?
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa,
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
Recently, I heard of this expression “Ik Omkar”, I already know the other one “Ik Onkar”, however, what is the difference between this one and “omkar”
Someone said it was the true word, I don’t know.
Can anyone explain?
Thanks
-Bindy Bains
(Formerly Khalsa Starr)
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04-12-2006, 09:27 PM
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Re: Ek Omkar?
Gurfateh ji..
Jst wanna say that Nothing to do with OM here. Its ONKAR.
Onkar is the first voice of universe. All the universe is created from the shabad ONKAR.
Onkaar Brahma utpat,
Onkaar kiya jin chit
Onkaar sail jug bhaye,
Onkaar baid nirmaye (SGGS)[929-18]
Brahma was created through the sound of Onkar, Brahma cherished the one Lord in his mind. It is through the sound of Onkar that mountains and ages emanated. It is this sound which created the Vedas.
Onkar Aaad kathni Anaad -- [Jaap Sahib-167]
Jain dharam de avatar Mahavir ji kende ne Onkar hi brahmand ki pehle awazz hai.. Upnishada de ade to jada Rishi Muni wi kende ne Onkar is the first voice of Universe by which this whole universe is created..
Onkar aad mein jana
Likhiar mete tahe namana -- Bhagat Kabir Ji
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09-12-2006, 07:52 PM
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Re: Ek Omkar?
spot on papee ji.
in the SGGS..Guru Ji makes it absolutely clear how te words which may me confused are to be correctly pronounced.
1. to stop people from saying Mehla EK, Do, Tin chaar etc..it is written in WORDS..Pehla, DOOJa TEEJa Chautha Panjavan etc ( in strategic places)
2. To stop people thinking that a certain shabd is "double" entry and thus need not be read again..Guru Ji has written: EH Slok AAD aant parrhhnna.
Here in th e examples from Oankar bani of Guur nanak Ji Sahib..Guur Ji makes absolutley clear how the Open OOrra in Manglacharan at opening of SGGS is to be pronounced..and to make sure that we understand Oankaar is ONE..Guru Ji put EK in NUMERAL form in front of Oankaar.
In spite of such clear and unrefutable evidence as to what Guru ji means..some FOOLS still go on insisting that this is "OM"...derived from OM..vedas etc ( sorry to use the word but there is no other word to describe them) GURMATT of Guru Sahibs is NOT a vedic derivative...it is a compete NEW religious Philosophy..new ideas, new language, new script, new concepts..New Scriptures, New Spirit of Sacrifice New AMRIT....NEW EVERYTHING..
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10-12-2006, 01:31 AM
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Re: Ek Omkar?
phone me on 020 7040 7460, im busy doin business at the moment, i'll explain on the phone
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25-12-2007, 06:09 PM
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Re: Ek Omkar?
earlier i just know that EK OANKAAR means one god ....... thanx for such good explanation.....
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25-12-2007, 11:19 PM
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ਨਾਮ ਤੇਰੇ ਕੀ ਜੋਤਿ ਲਗਾਈ
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Re: Ek Omkar?
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Originally Posted by deep_deep
earlier i just know that EK OANKAAR means one god ....... thanx for such good explanation.....
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This is a pleasant comment. Good going deep_deep.
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26-12-2007, 01:31 AM
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Re: Ek Omkar?
eykMkwru iekWg iliK AUVw EaMkwru ilKwieaw [
siqnwmu krqw purKu inrBAu hoie inrvYru sdwieaw [
: Bhai gurdas Vaaran... Vaar 39
Here bhai sahib is pronouncing Ik Ooaankar
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26-12-2007, 06:52 AM
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Re: Ek Omkar?
Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
Dear all and International Akaali Jee!
Quote "Here bhai sahib is pronouncing Ik Ooaankar."
Please explain. Which word from Bhai Gurdas Jee written in Gurmukhi as referred from your lines have you pronounced Ik Ooaankar?
Please do not ignore my request.
Balbir Singh
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26-12-2007, 08:47 AM
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Re: Ek Omkar?
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Originally Posted by Balbir Singh
Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
Dear all and International Akaali Jee!
Quote "Here bhai sahib is pronouncing Ik Ooaankar."
Please explain. Which word from Bhai Gurdas Jee written in Gurmukhi as referred from your lines have you pronounced Ik Ooaankar?
Please do not ignore my request.
Balbir Singh
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Please refer to vaar 39 of bhai gurdaas ji and you will get your answer.
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29-12-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: Ek Omkar?
Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
Dear all and International Akaali Jee!
Quote "Please refer to vaar 39 of bhai gurdaas ji and you will get your answer."
It was a misleading proposal. Bhai Gurdas Jee has not written 'Ik Ooaankar' in Vaar 39 nor he has suggested to pronounce any word so.
Balbir Singh
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30-12-2007, 01:26 AM
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Re: Ek Omkar?
Balbir ji
Varr 39, Pauree 1, Line 1
ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ (Bhai Gurdas)
ikonkaar satigur prasaadi ॥ (English phonetic transliteration)
This is how he wrote it. We don't know how he pronounced it because there are no tape recordings or audio files. Though I think International Akaali ji was making a different point some comments earlier.
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