I heard that the Raag Maala in Guru Granth Sahib is missing two other parts, that the first part was added into Guru Granth Sahib by Pandits and other Brahmanistic agents who wanted to influence Hinduism back into the Sikhs years ago, fighting against Mogals in the mountains. I heard that part two and three of Raag Maala is also very pornographic and sexy. Where can I get an English translation of these other two parts, and what book has them? Are they from rare Pandit books? Why is there no signature of the author in Raag Maala? Who wrote "ek oankar satgur prasaad after "tan man tivai hereya", that is before "Raag Maala?"

Gurfateh

Respected sister,

Have a look at link below

http://www.damdamitaksal.com/lit.htm

das is surprised to know that muslim courter or pimp as propogated by Brahmnaical people bashing Guru Granth Sahib Ji itself has become Brahmin ie so caled Writer of Raagmala.

Preversion of Sex in mind makes it to be found every whrer.

In Kartarpuri Beer or copy Raagmala is on page 794 or 974 and same ink and same wriiter as other verses.
So is abouot Bahi Bannu Beer at Kanpur Up India and Beers or Copy by Baba Deep Singh ji at various Takhats.

best thing is to do Carbaon dating in organic or Nucler dating of inorgainic for the matter created by Papers meeting ink.

And let us see the time of verses as well as Raagmala and if it is found from the time of Guru then we can go further to edit other Brahmnical Parts of Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

If you want Das can send you all via PM.Das votes it to be as per with Gurmat.

Radiocarbon dating will not prove the writer, but it will prove the age of the manuscript within about 65 years.

Can someone post in Gurmukhi letters and with English translations these two missing parts of Raag Maala?

I want to examine their context.

Foolishness is in that link which tries to prove Raag Maalah as Gurbani. The excuse is that the person who contested it grew very ill, so he prayed forgiveness and promised never to argue against Raag Maalah. Then he was cured. I don't think his illness had anything to do with his doubt of Raag Maalah. I believe his illness was due to being in the company of people who promoted kachi baani. He caught the flew that they probably carried. You can be a carrier of bacteria that doesn't affect you, but can affect others. Each one has their own level of immune systems. If he did not catch his illness from them, then maybe it was just in the air on in something he ate. We Sikhs do not believe in magic. All is the natural laws of the universe. When we lack Guru Ji's wisdom, we become blind in our own ego and ignorance, and we become prey to deceivers of truthfulness, being brainwashed or fooled like buyers in a corrupt merchant's store.

Gurfateh
Respected Sister,

With organic compounds more then 65 years say till thousneds of years we will be able to get the reuslt.

In inorganic Nucler dating it can go much more in past as we use this in geology to get the age of rock.

Das would like to examime the mixture of ink and paper that will guive the time of writing and if it is proven that it at the time of Guru then Brahmanical absorbtion theroy due to Sikhs in Jungle will be void.

If we say that all the acent Scripyts were interpolated then we are saying that we do not have auothenthic version of Guru Granth sahib Ji and it is based upon oraltradition like Holy Bible and Holy Kuran which das thinks is wrong.

Das would like to inform that Bhai Jodh Singh(not Dr Jodh Singh) did find that Adi Bir or intial copy is the one at Kartarpur.

Coming to faith of sickness etc. das would like to tell you that till this date many of the missionaries say that Aahmad Shah Abdali died of cancer which happened after a brick while desrroying Darbar Sahib hit his nose.

Such things are only for belivers and non Belivers may not belive.

Das wants your permission to brin g below such other parts of Guru Granth sahib Ji also which likie Raagmala if taken without refering others part of Guru Granth Sahib Ji look Brahmanical Conspiracy.

and should they be removed too.As Babu Teja Singh Ji did.

Das is repeating that Das also thinks that Raagmala may not be writtan b y Guru but he might have got it from say prostitues cout as the same Raag which are there for lust are going to be used for spritual upliftment.

Evil turned for Good as God is in evil also.Like Sarangi was usly been used in Brothal but same is used in Gurudwaras to put its use to uplift us spritually.

If ads is not mistaken there are verses of Ninth Master which cleraly tells of harlot/*****/Ganika getting Salvation by name of God.

Guru was for all socity and did not descrimnated for class as we do.

Das is sorry if wrong is writtan but tommorow das will try to meet S. Surjeet Singh Ji Missioanries of Delhi and if has that verse you are asking then they will be produced.

But das is also interseted to know the age of oldest copy of prongraphic verese(if any).

Say if they are after the age of Adi bir and some mischivious person added later to demfame Gurubani then what should we do?

Lastly Das would like to say that if you see Guru Granth Sahib Ji,There are verse which tell about magic or Miracles but they are to be attributed to Akal and not to human as we tend to start those Humans who perform them as personal worship.

Rember the thing,We do not have our wisdom but all belongs to Guru(not the person but one who lives in all).

Gurfateh

Das has just got the whole of Ragmala from the book Raagmaala Parchol by GYani Surjeet Singh Ji princepal of Delhi and can be obtai9ned from
Gurmat Education Centre
44,Mehar Chand Market,
Lodhi Road,
New Delhi-110003.
India.


Das is giving below the scanned version of All.

Unlike Gyani Sahib Ji das feels Ragmaala as per Gurmat and reason will be givne in details as das was more busy with other works like that of Dasham Granth Ji.

Das does respect people like Gyani Surjeet Singh Ji,Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana and Bhag Singh Ji Ambal as thier intention is good but thier way of understanding Gurmat is not the way it should be.

Das did tel Gyani Sahib that das may not agree to him but respect him and support him in many other things as it is with Ambala Sahib and Kala Afghana Sahib.

Attachements as follows.

Gurfateh

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Gurfateh

The last part.(das request if some moderator or Admin could enable the whole pages to be displayed in one thread instead of links.

Gurfateh

by mercy of Akal das is able to rexplain word by word whole of it.

but das will try to tell why that part which is included is included and why is it not anti Gurmat(Das also bleives that it is not wriitan by Guru but does belive that there is a chance of Guru getting a part of Raagmala writtan by other and including in Guru Granth Sahib like the writing of Bhagats or Sufis).

This not by Brhamin by Muslim Sufi Alam.

vijaydeep ji, its not possible to show whole pages as they are image files. however, clicking the link opens a new window and we can view the whole pages. I hope that is helpful. Regards

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