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| | | | | God-Man Has Kidnapped My Daughter God-Man Has Kidnapped My Daughter Register to Remove Advertisements God-man Has Kidnapped My Daughter http://epaper. hindustantimes. com/ArticleText. aspx?article= 08_03_2010_ 191_011&kword=&mode=1 Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/controversies/29469-god-man-has-kidnapped-my-daughter.html
The father and family members of two sisters, who were allegedly 'kidnapped' with the connivance of a godman from their college hostel a few days back, have alleged that godman has brainwashed their daughters and they are now leveling serious allegations against them. On Sunday, the two sisters had given interview to a nation- al TV channel in Delhi and had alleged that their father was trying to push them into pros- titution.
It is pertinent to mention that two sisters Manpreet (20) and Kiranpreet (19) were 'kidnapped' by one of godman's accomplices on February 24 from a city- based college, where they were studying in B.Com.
Rupinder Singh, father of the 'kidnapped' girls, alleged that they came in contact with the godman in 2007.
"We were surprised to know that the girls had given inter- view to a TV channel in Delhi, stating that I was forcing them into prostitution. It's sad to hear such a thing from my own daughters, whom I love the most. The godman has ruined our life by brainwashing my daughters," Rupinder Singh, a resident of Bulara village, stat- ed.
Rupinder further alleged that whenever the godman visited their house, he was always accompanied by young girls.
"Even in October last, the girls had lodged a complaint against me with the Sadar police, stating that I was stopping them from talking to the godman.
After this incident, the girls started living in the hos- tel of the college, where they earlier studied. A Canada based NRI named Gurdeep Singh Dhaliwal, who was also god- man's follower, was nominated as their local guardian," Rupinder alleged. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
He alleged that the godman showered all kinds of facilities on his daughters, to which he was totally unaware of.
"He even got them a bank account, besides they were also given costly gifts by the god- man. I am sure that my daugh- ters have been brainwashed by him and that is why they are giving such statements. I urge our community leaders to help me in getting my daughters back," Rupinder alleged.
Gurdeep Singh alleged that though he was their local guardian, "but when I found something fishy in the activi- ties of the godman, I raised ques- tions. This probably agitated the godman and I was asked to step down as the girls' local guardian."
The Model Town Police had registered a kidnapping case against unknown persons.
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08-Mar-2010, 13:59 PM
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| | | | | Re: God-Man Has Kidnapped My Daughter There are about 300 deras in Punjab. I can bet sparing one or two, rest all of them are nothing but prostitution den. Most of them have the blessing of political leaders whom they supply girls. Last year when saucha sauda devotees were shown shouting on TV, I remember one girl was a keep of Baba Ram Rahom. | | The following members appreciate japjisahib04 Ji for the above message. | | 
03-May-2010, 16:09 PM
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| | | | | | | Re: God-Man Has Kidnapped My Daughter CAN these people stop lying?? To hear the truth wathc the NEWS ITEMS:
(gurdeep Singh Dhaliwal has been to jail 12 times and is wanted to Delhi Police right now)
Bhai Jaspal Singhji is a respectable Keertaniya, these people blame a keertaniya? How will they answer after death? bhai Sahib ji hasnt even visited India past 1 year. He has not even had any long tern interation with the girls - let alone hypnotics?? Any psychologist would be able to tell you that hypnosis does not last more that 10 minutes?? Please use some brains and LOGIC. Kindly watch the following NEWS ITEMS TO KNOW THE TRUTH
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NEWS ITEM: Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
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| | | | | Re: God-Man Has Kidnapped My Daughter These girls are in total depression and needs counseling. From their body language I can only say they are trying to protect US waleh Baba ji. They are using uncivilized language against their parents. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
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| | | | | Re: God-Man Has Kidnapped My Daughter I want to point out that the thread starter is a news article published by a legitimate news organization. SPN has not taken sides on this matter. In fact more than one perspective has already been presented in the thread. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
The legality of a police raid is now being heard by the courts. That does not in any way impede the ability of our forum members to discuss the issue. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
Both sides of the story have been given an opportunity to report their views in this thread. Another thread on this subject has been closed. This one can stay open for the time being.
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| | | | | Re: God-Man Has Kidnapped My Daughter Gurfateh Ji
The forums like SPN are here to present our opinions and not deliver a verdict. So we should be careful not to ill-direct our anger...
The fact of the matter is that the story has been expounded by the media the way it has been and over this you or we have had no control; and just by SPN publishing this story does not in anyway condone the actions of the media; and removing the story altogether would also serve no purpose to you or the readers.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it is quite apparent that both of the girls are over and above the age of 18 and so they are, in India, legally capable of making decisions to suit best of their interests. And from the videos above it is quite evident that they seem to be educated enough to talk on their own behalf. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
What you can do is to present your side of the story and try to clear doubts in the mind of the readers. You should rather be grateful to waheguru that this avenue (SPN) allows you to clear your side of the story without being critical of you.
And as Narayanjot Ji has stated above, the stance of SPN on such issues is always neutral and it stays like that and of course there is no point in removing the topic for our right to freedom of expression. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
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03-May-2010, 21:55 PM
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| | | | | Re: God-Man Has Kidnapped My Daughter This is my take on this issue. Staying at home, lack of finance (felt like hell) they took to a fantasy of settling overseas or better prospects. What better way than by joining an international marketing syndicate ( human trafficking ). These Baba Jees are famous for mafia style setups solely for various 'benefits' like black mailing, marriage arrangements, etc. The girls have been brainwashed and raped and threatened by the baba jee and also the promises to become 'caretakers' of the various properties owned by the baba. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
In summary, these girls are going to end up as concubines and drenched in a lifetime slavery. Who can help them? Nobody. Because they cannot see through it all. | | The following members appreciate Astroboy Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: God-Man Has Kidnapped My Daughter Sadh Sangat,
I know Jaspal Singh very well on a personal level. He used to do Keertan at Lankershim Gurdwara in Los Angeles and also at Sikh Dharma in the late 80's and 90's. He was a married man with children in the UK. Then he enticed one of his Keertan students who was much younger than him, left his family and moved with her to the States. He, after some years divorced his first wife. This woman, his ex student used to sit on the stage with him while playing some musical instruments.
I had no idea he had become so rich and famous after 20 years and has several deras. But his womanising does not surprise me at all. He always had the lecherous smile. Never trusted the guy. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
These so called people in the " saintly" garb are the most dangerous ones and many ignorant people with money both in India, in the Middle East and in other countries become their chelas and make them very wealthy. When the house was raided, Jaspal Singh was said to be in Dubai. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
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| | | | | Re: God-Man Has Kidnapped My Daughter Bhagat Kabeer Ji has warned us of such Banares Ke Thug in the following shabad:- ਆਸਾ ॥
आसा ॥
Āsā.
Aasaa: | ਗਜ ਸਾਢੇ ਤੈ ਤੈ ਧੋਤੀਆ ਤਿਹਰੇ ਪਾਇਨਿ ਤਗ ॥
गज साढे तै तै धोतीआ तिहरे पाइनि तग ॥
Gaj sādẖe ṯai ṯai ḏẖoṯī▫ā ṯihre pā▫in ṯag.
They wear loin cloths, three and a half yards long, and triple-wound sacred threads. | ਗਲੀ ਜਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹਾ ਜਪਮਾਲੀਆ ਲੋਟੇ ਹਥਿ ਨਿਬਗ ॥
गली जिन्हा जपमालीआ लोटे हथि निबग ॥
Galī jinĥā japmālī▫ā lote hath nibag.
They have rosaries around their necks, and they carry glittering jugs in their hands. | ਓਇ ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਸੰਤ ਨ ਆਖੀਅਹਿ ਬਾਨਾਰਸਿ ਕੇ ਠਗ ॥੧॥
ओइ हरि के संत न आखीअहि बानारसि के ठग ॥१॥
O▫e har ke sanṯ na ākẖī▫ahi bānāras ke ṯẖag. ||1||
They are not called Saints of the Lord - they are thugs of Benares. ||1|| | ਐਸੇ ਸੰਤ ਨ ਮੋ ਕਉ ਭਾਵਹਿ ॥
ऐसे संत न मो कउ भावहि ॥
Aise sanṯ na mo ka▫o bẖāvėh.
Such 'saints' are not pleasing to me; | ਡਾਲਾ ਸਿਉ ਪੇਡਾ ਗਟਕਾਵਹਿ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
डाला सिउ पेडा गटकावहि ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Dālā si▫o pedā gatkāvahi. ||1|| rahā▫o.
they eat the trees along with the branches. ||1||Pause|| | ਬਾਸਨ ਮਾਂਜਿ ਚਰਾਵਹਿ ਊਪਰਿ ਕਾਠੀ ਧੋਇ ਜਲਾਵਹਿ ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
बासन मांजि चरावहि ऊपरि काठी धोइ जलावहि ॥
Bāsan māʼnj cẖarāvėh ūpar kāṯẖī ḏẖo▫e jalāvėh.
They wash their pots and pans before putting them on the stove, and they wash the wood before lighting it. | ਬਸੁਧਾ ਖੋਦਿ ਕਰਹਿ ਦੁਇ ਚੂਲ੍ਹ੍ਹੇ ਸਾਰੇ ਮਾਣਸ ਖਾਵਹਿ ॥੨॥
बसुधा खोदि करहि दुइ चूल्हे सारे माणस खावहि ॥२॥
Basuḏẖā kẖoḏ karahi ḏu▫e cẖūlĥe sāre māṇas kẖāvėh. ||2||
They dig up the earth and make two fireplaces, but they eat the whole person! ||2|| | ਓਇ ਪਾਪੀ ਸਦਾ ਫਿਰਹਿ ਅਪਰਾਧੀ ਮੁਖਹੁ ਅਪਰਸ ਕਹਾਵਹਿ ॥
ओइ पापी सदा फिरहि अपराधी मुखहु अपरस कहावहि ॥
O▫e pāpī saḏā firėh aprāḏẖī mukẖahu apras kahāvėh.
Those sinners continually wander in evil deeds, while they call themselves touch-nothing saints. | ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਫਿਰਹਿ ਅਭਿਮਾਨੀ ਸਗਲ ਕੁਟੰਬ ਡੁਬਾਵਹਿ ॥੩॥
सदा सदा फिरहि अभिमानी सगल कुट्मब डुबावहि ॥३॥
Saḏā saḏā firėh abẖimānī sagal kutamb dubāvėh. ||3||
They wander around forever and ever in their self-conceit, and all their families are drowned. ||3|| | ਜਿਤੁ ਕੋ ਲਾਇਆ ਤਿਤ ਹੀ ਲਾਗਾ ਤੈਸੇ ਕਰਮ ਕਮਾਵੈ ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29469
जितु को लाइआ तित ही लागा तैसे करम कमावै ॥
Jiṯ ko lā▫i▫ā ṯiṯ hī lāgā ṯaise karam kamāvai.
He is attached to that, to which the Lord has attached him, and he acts accordingly. | ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਜਿਸੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਭੇਟੈ ਪੁਨਰਪਿ ਜਨਮਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥੪॥੨॥
कहु कबीर जिसु सतिगुरु भेटै पुनरपि जनमि न आवै ॥४॥२॥
Kaho Kabīr jis saṯgur bẖetai punrap janam na āvai. ||4||2||
Says Kabeer, one who meets the True Guru, is not reincarnated again. ||4||2|| | | | The following members appreciate Astroboy Ji for the above message. | | 
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