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Muslims and Christians can work together to depose dictators and assert the power of the people. We've seen it happen on the Tahrir Square in Cairo during the 2011 revolution in Egypt, with devout Muslims and Coptic Christians protesting side by side. But can Muslims and Christians work together to build a democratic society in which rights of all are respected, the rights of minority Coptic Christians no less than the rights of majority Muslims? They can, if they have a common set of fundamental values. But do they? They do, if they, both monotheists, have a common God.

Ever since 9/11, the most common question I am asked when I speak about these two religions is whether or not Muslims and Christians worship the same God. Muslims don't push the question. But Christians do, vigorously -- in Europe, Asia and Africa no less than in North America. Maybe that's not surprising. In the manual of the terrorists who flew the planes on a suicidal mission it read: "Remember, this is a battle for the sake of God." In the name of God and with expectations of glory in this world and rewards in the next, they killed themselves and thousands of innocent civilians. To many Christians it seems obvious that the God who spills the blood of the innocent and rewards suicidal missions with paradisiacal pleasures can't be the God they worship.
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The question, however, isn't mainly about the terrorists and their God. It's about Muslims generally. It draws its energy from a deep concern. To ask: "Do we have a common God?" is to worry: "Can we live together without bloodshed?" That's why whether a given community worships the same god as another community has always been a crucial cultural and political question and not just a theological one.

Here are the realities we all face:

* Christianity and Islam are today the most numerous and fastest growing religions globally. Together they encompass more than half of humanity. Consequence: both are here to stay.

* As a result of globalization, ours is an interconnected and interdependent world. Religions are intermingled within single states and across their boundaries. Consequence: Muslims and Christians will increasingly share common spaces.

* Since both religions are by their very nature "socially engaged" and since their followers mostly embrace democratic ideals, they will continue to push for their vision of the good life in the public square. Consequence: tensions between Muslims and Christians are unavoidable.

Growing, intertwined and assertive -- communities of Muslims and Christians will live together. But can they live in peace building together a common future?
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At the height of the Iraq War in 2004, influential TV evangelist and former U.S. presidential candidate Pat Robertson said: "The entire world is being convulsed by a religious struggle. The fight is not about money or territory; it is not about poverty versus wealth; it is not about ancient customs versus modernity. No. The struggle is whether Hubal, the Moon God of Mecca, known as Allah, is supreme, or whether the Judeo-Christian Jehovah God of the Bible is supreme." Fighting words these are! Two supreme divine beings always means war.

The fact of the matter is this: fearful people bent on domination have created the contest for supremacy between Yahweh, the God of the Bible, and Allah, the God of the Quran. The two are one God, albeit differently understood. Arab Christians have for centuries worshiped God under the name "Allah." Most Christians through the centuries, saints and teachers of undisputed orthodoxy, have believed that Muslims worship the same God as they do. They did so even in times of Muslim cultural ascendency and military conquests, when they represented a grave threat to Christianity in the whole of Europe.

After the fall of Constantinople (1453), the city named after the first Christian emperor and a seat of Christendom for more than 1,000 years, Cardinal Nicholas of Cusa, a towering intellect and an experienced church diplomat, affirmed unambiguously that Muslims and Christians worship the same God, albeit partly differently understood. Significantly, in response to the fall of Constantinople and the Muslim threat, Nicholas of Cusa advocated "conversation" rather than "crusade," a strategy pursued doggedly though unsuccessfully by his friend, Pope Pius II. For Nicholas believed that war could never solve the issue between Christendom and Islam.

We live in a different world than Nicholas and Pius II did, but our options are roughly the same. We should resolutely follow Nicholas. The terrorists must be stopped. As to the 1.6 billion Muslims, with them we must build a common future, one based on equal dignity of each person, economic opportunity and justice for all and freedom to govern common affairs through democratic institutions. Muslims and Christians have a set of shared fundamental values that can guide such a vision partly because they have a common God.

On Feb. 18, during the "Day of Celebration," Sheik al-Qaradawi -- one of the most influential Muslim clerics in the world, exiled from Egypt since 1961 -- addressed the crowd of over one million. He began by noting that he is discarding the customary opening "Oh, Muslims." In favor of "Oh, Muslims and Copts." He praised both for bringing about the revolution together. And he added, "I invite you to bow down in prayer together." Such prayer, addressed to the common God in distinct ways, lies at the foundation of hope for a new Egypt.

Whether Muslims and Christians worship the same God is also the driving question for the relation between these two religions globally. Does the one God of Islam stand in contrast to the three-personal God of Christianity? Does the Muslim God issue fierce, unbending laws and demand submission, whereas the Christian God stands for love, equal dignity and the right of every individual to be different? Answer these questions the one way, and you have a justification for cultural and military wars. Answer them the other way, and you have a foundation for a shared future marked by peace rather than violence.

Miroslav Volf is the author of 'Allah: A Christian Response' (HarperOne; February 2011), the Henry B. Wright Professor of Theology at Yale Divinity School, and the Founding Director of the Yale Center for Faith and Culture.

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Re: Do Christians and Muslims Worship the Same God?

Not if the Crusades are anything to go by!

It's one of the the things about religions I find fascinating...how quick followers are to recognise the differences rather than the common areas

You have the three great Abrahamanic religions kicking off with Judaism, then Christianity and finally Islam, which regards itself as being the final and most complete version of the message revealed to previous great Prophets like Abraham, Moses and jesus

So to answer the question in the thread title directly, Muslims and Christians should worship the same God.....but they don't
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You have divisions across the religions and then factions within the religions themselves

Religion ...which is supposed to give you a moral code, a sense of right and wrong, a higher calling etc....

This is why I avoid organised religions and why I like Sikhism which is direct to the point and refreshingly free of useless ritual and dogma
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I very much doubt it

Too many barriers on both sides and divergent paths that have made them yawning chasms apart
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Take Jesus for example...Son of God or a great Prophet?
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the only thing Christianity is related to Islam is they are monotheists, and no it is a different god they worship
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That is the view of Christians, yes but not others
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There is only 1 God. It's just everyone see's God differently just like the blindfolded men described the elephant differently even though there was only 1 elephant! Both Islam and Christianity have been written after the event by people so have a bias introduced that way which will explain some of the differences. There cannot be more than 1 God ikonkaar
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Do Muslims, Christians and Jews worship the same God?
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Muslims believe because of Sura 29:46 that Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same God, and of course, muslims also claim that Islam is an Abrahamic faith like Judaism and Christianity.
However, the Muslim God, Allah, bears little resemblance to YHWH, the God of the Bible and the two are irreconcilable...
Western civilization is based on Judeo-Christian principles, so politically & in every way it is therefore completely contrary to the principles of Islamic Sharia Law. This is where the debate should begin and if our leaders understand this, then political decisions regarding Islam may take a different course... one that might just save our civilization from the curses of Islam.
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Muslims believe because of Sura 29:46 that Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same God, and of course, muslims also claim that Islam is an Abrahamic faith like Judaism and Christianity.
However, the Muslim God, Allah, bears little resemblance to YHWH, the God of the Bible and the two are irreconcilable...
Western civilization is based on Judeo-Christian principles, so politically & in every way it is therefore completely contrary to the principles of Islamic Sharia Law. This is where the debate should begin and if our leaders understand this, then political decisions regarding Islam may take a different course... one that might just save our civilization from the curses of Islam.
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