Many Christians Believe That Salvation Can Only Be Attained through Jesus...

PANJAJI

I have much to say but will keep it brief. You ask a very important question and I have read all the thread. You give your answer, which is quite in line with Sikh theology & thought. You also analyze the Christian belief that Jesus is the only way.
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Let me stop right here and tell you that neither Jesus nor the Bible says that He is the only way. This might come as a shock but it is true. You do not need to believe in Jesus to attain salvation if you can live a sinless life from the second you are born till the second you die. It is only sin that separates mankind from communion & fellowship with God & bars him/her from entering God’s glorious sin-free and most Holy Heaven. The problem is that EVERY human being has sinned. The Holy Bible says: “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (ROM 3:23). The Holy Bible also says: “If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us…If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him (God) a liar, and His word is not in us.” (1 John 1:8,10).

You list a number of people who you claim achieved salvation. Unless you can show me from the pages of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that this is an absolute fact, I cannot take your word. When it comes to Truth, you are guilty until proven innocent i.e. any assertions made are suspect until you give reasonable evidence to prove the veracity of those claims.

In John 14:6 Jesus did not say that he was a “Way-shower.” Neither did He say that He was “A” way but “THE” Way. Jesus made an absolutely EXCLUSIVE claim, which would exclude all other ways including Sikhism.

Jass Singh

 
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I think people are misunderstanding the words of Jesus. No human form can save another. God cannot save anyone either unless one accepts His help. One needs to understand the meaning of "salvation." It is not a phenomena that happens after death. It is peace of mind, contentment, knowing that if you are walking in the kingdom of God, accepting God's hukam, that this is a good start. What is salvation? Do your really believe in a fiery Hell, or do you believe that the Hell experience is compared to one of the most painful ways of suffering, burning to death. Emotional pain is more painful that physical pain.

Didn't Jesus humbly pray, "God if it be Your will that this cup pass from me." He was showing humbleness. Jesus is not a chauvinistic savior full of conceit. He is the only way mean what he was teaching, to follow the Kingdom of God. Hukam razaee challna... Thy kingdom come.

Why do people believe in the Bible? Most of them do because they were conditioned to from either their parents or charismatic brainwashing preachers. I know Jews believe in Torah because their ancestors experienced the miracles themselves, and their Oral Law Torah Be'al Peh tradition goes all the way back to Mt. Sinai, the giving of the Law of Moses. Christians do not believe in an Oral Law. They only believe what is written, but they do believe their Church Follwers that preach, "The New Testament is also part of the Bible, and the Hebrew Scriptures, too." Christians beleive in Bible because they have an oral tradition passed down from generation to generation, but they deny Oral Law oral tradition so to speak.
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Believing in Bible or Guru Granth Sahib does not save. Merely believing anyone can do, but if one acts on what is taught, "Be doers of the word." That is a good beginning to experience salvation. Many Christians emotionally believe in Jesus, but they do not follow his teachings. Many Sikhs bow to Guru Granth Sahib, but they do not even have an interest in studying the Shabads. Most of them are only interested in rituals and making money. Well, a lot of Christians preachers are doing the same. They need to stop putting Jesus back on the Cross and start practicing what he taught. Sikhs likewise need to stop the Brahmanistic pseudo Sikh teachings and get back to the original Sikh philosophy. Christianity and Sikhism have much in common, but a fanatically Christian fundamentalist would say that Satan copies the Holy things. Satan is merely our ego, "Sehes sianapan lakh hoen ta ek na chaley naal" Thousands of tricks, yet none of them will work." Jap Ji Sahib. Salvation is not done by works, neither is tricking reality. The salvation experience can only come when one acknowledge the hukam of God control all of reality. Jesus submitted to this, and so did Guru Nanak, "Nanak bughoyad jan tura tere chakran pa khak." Nanak humble is a servant to You, God, and to the dust of the feet of His slaves." (Tilang Mehela 1 Ghar 1 ang 721) Here slaves could mean either those who are true to God, or could mean the many natural laws that obey God's command.

beliefs and views are two different things .. Views may be private and personal , but belief becomes belief when any activity is observed repeatedly in a same human being or in different human beings.


Suppose a person who has not seen a sikh , but sees a sikh for the first time , then the second time the other person , then the third time the other person , it automatically becomes a belief that a person having such and such traits is a Sikh.

One scripture from the New Testaments says, "Neither is there salvation in any other. For there is none other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved."

Salvation cannot be attained by human activity or effort but is the free gift of God through faith in Jesus Christ. The person wanting to be at peace with God confesses his sins. God through his grace grants forgiveness. The person's conscience is awakened to his need of Christ and is thereby granted forgiveness and is adopted into the family of God. In other words, he is saved.

Shearwater ji, Bittu ji and other Christian Brothers and Sisters !
I will be very happy to see all Christians being saved by Lord Jesus, leave Sikhs alone, they have Guru and original Guru teachings unlike Christians who are taught some thing not actually written by Lord Christ himself. When Lord Christ shows up again, invite us, we shall honor that holy man heartily because he is one of numerous enlightened ones our Creator created.

Shearwater ji

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