'Aggressive Conversion' - Targetted By Cops

Islamic Student Recruiters Targetted By Cops

Thursday, 22nd February 2007, 14:50
Category: Crime and Punishment

Extremist Muslims who force hundreds of vulnerable teenage girls to convert to Islam are being targeted by police, it was revealed today.

Cops are working with universities to clamp down on the practice of 'Aggressive Conversion' that has seen girls beaten up and forced to abandon university courses, announced Sir Ian Blair, Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police.

Those most at risk are Hindu or Sikh girls, who are especially vulnerable, according to the Hindu Forum of Britain.
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They claim that hundreds are subject to intimidation, threats and beatings by Muslim men who take them out for dates before beginning a campaign of 'terrorism' until they convert to Islam.

And they say some Muslims are being paid up to £5,000 for every person converted to Islam in parts of the country.

Sir Ian Blair stated his support for the Hindu community at a conference organised by the Hindu Forum of Britain.

Ramesh Kallidai, secretary general of the Hindu Forum of Britain, said the Hindu and Sikh community were infuriated by the conversions.

He said: "There is a lot of passion and resentment in the Hindu and Sikh community over aggressive conversions and intimidation on university campuses.

"Extremist Muslims make life completely miserable for Hindu girls. Some are completely petrified because they are constantly being phoned up, having their door knocked. They feel these men have a complete hold on them.

"One girl was beaten up on the street and and others have been forced to leave university.

"We believe there are at least two or three cases in each of the universities in London alone, based on what we know from victims telling us.

"It is probably more prevalent in cities such as Birmingham, Leeds and Bradford and I would absolutely say are hundreds of such cases.

"We have seen posters in Luton that specifically ask Muslim boys to convert Hindu and Sikh girls because they are very vulnerable.

"They are encouraged to go on dates with Hindu girls, and once they have won their trust, to aggressively convert them.

"I have even heard rumours that Muslim boys are paid as much as £5,000 to convert someone.

"The problem is we don't know the full extent of the problem because even coming to tell us takes very brave girls. They know the boys that do it and are frightened they know where they live."

Last November, Higher Education minister Bill Rammell claimed University campuses had become focal points for Islamic extremism.

Police urged any girls who have been targeted to report aggressors to them.

However Mr Kallidai said they were not doing enough to tackle the problem and that they needed to identify the extent of the problem before attempting to deal with it.

He continued: "The problem is that police are saying they will deal with this and work with universities, but they don't know the scale of the problem.

"They've got to encourage people to report and intimidation, then investigate the problem. They need to find ways in which girls will feel more confident to report it.

"I think a dedicated, confidential line would be of help - something like Crimestoppers is too general."

A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "The Commissioner and other Metropolitan Police colleagues attended a Hindu security conference organised by the Hindu Forum of Great Britain yesterday.

"The Commissioner told attendees that the Met understood the feeling in the Hindu community that police had not given them as much attention as some other groups and gave reassurance that their concerns are taken seriously.

"The issue of Hindu girls being reportedly subjected to aggressive conversion techniques and intimidation on university campuses was raised.

"Neighbourhood police officers work with university authorities in London and we would encourage anyone who has been targeted in this way to seek help and support and where necessary use third party reporting facilities if they do not want to contact police directly."

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Why is not the problem taken care of by the sikh and hindu communities themselves? Are we that weak and cowardly now that the above is true? If it is true, it is shameful and our folks in UK ought to be ridiculed. While it may be on a small scale, perhaps some people need old fashioned fist-a-cuffs and danda treatment.

Badmash,

Look up a thread called "Shere Punjab" on this site. Some people were doing something akin to what you are saying years ago about this. Its a shame that conservative cowards in th ecommunity didn't have nothing positive to say about them and just buried their heads in the sand like true giddarhs!
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Actually I'll bring that thread back to the fore just to let people know we aren't all cowards, even if we aren't perfectly disciplined.

Same old nonsense...... they are parading some idiot who converted like a trophy........it's so sad that it makes me laugh....
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Sikh Converted To Islam! - The Voice of Sikh Youth

I appreciate your comments. Not living in UK, perhaps I have no right to comment. But being Sikh and hearing of above, (again perhaps it is overstated) but if true, then it is sad. And I am not talking of discipline, all communities need their "zealots". And the other communities have them, attempting converts to Islam and Christianity. When we suffer unjust harassment as a sikh or hindu community, then the community must use lawful means to counteract. However, it never hurts if the wrongdoers and people conducting unwanted solicitation and worse are directly confronted physically and asked to desist. And if that does not work, we have our history, do we not? And if sikhs in UK cannot do this (where there are so many more per capita than anywhere else in the west), then shall we throw the towel or in or perhaps recite some gurbani (perhaps in urdu script)!???
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Sat Sri Akal!!

You know I must say one other thing as well. Who are these girls and people who give in to this kind of intimidation? Sorry for saying so, but I do not understand it. Someone bullies you, grinds you down, and you give in to spiritual and religious conversion by force??! It seems to me, the victims are almost as responsible as the people desiring conversion. I mean come on, have some guts and pride in one's own history. It is not as groups of armed Pathans are outside your door ready to hack you down (as they did many times in the past!!). Have we fallen so much, that our young educated and literate people do not know how to keep their heads high and have dignity of identity, even in a western secular society and at western universities? Sorry if that is too critical, but why are we the only people having this problem?

It just goes back to what we were talking about before brother. The importance of Sikhs having a solid sense of identity and self knowledge. The role of the family is central to this. Instead of just pushing kids to do well academically and professionally parents need to inform them of their roots!

But be cool. The problem isn't half as bad as it was a few years ago.

badmash you are absolutely right.sikhs should take care of this problem themselves
majority of sikhs have forgotten their martial tradition.sikh preachers are only interested in imposing 5ks.
they never told sikhs how to use kirpan or do other sikh martial arts.i am really sorry to say that the more i read about sikh history the more it looks like that we are following brahminified version of sikhi
and not the original one