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Are Indian Agents In Canada Fomenting Trouble In Sikh Community?

NEW DELHI – Former Indian diplomat Madhuri Gupta, who was charged with selling secrets to Pakistan, was reportedly in constant touch with two officials posted at the Indian high commission in Canada and through them she allegedly passed on crucial information to handlers in some other countries.

Sources in the India’s central intelligence agencies say that there are reports that she might have passed on crucial information to Babbar Khalsa International (BKI), through the officials posted in Canada.

“There are reports that some of the active members of Babbar Khalsa (in Canada) were in touch with two officials posted (at Indian High Commission in Canada) who were passing information to them (Babbar Khalsa) after receiving the same from Ms Gupta. Investigating officials are likely to question the two officials,” sources from India’s central intelligence agencies said.

Does this mean that either the Indian government or Congress party or RAW agency is using Indian government officials (agents) to foment trouble in Canada’s Sikh community, a charge that many Sikh organizations have leveled at India.

The BKI is an extremist organization which is banned in Canada. Although it is not publicly active in Canada, there are small groups or individuals who remain committed to its causes of an independent Sikh state in Punjab.

Sources further informed that the two Indian agents posted in Canada were in touch with Gupta through emails. She used to pass them information through e-mails, while constantly changing her e-mail accounts. Hard disk of her computer has been sent for forensic examination in Hyderabad.

Meanwhile, investigating officials are questioning some Indian officials who worked with her in other countries, where she was posted. They have zeroed-in on 10 contacts of Gupta in India, with whom she was regularly in touch.
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Sources said that she used to talk to these contacts frequently, for long durations. The officials have recovered two mobile phones, one computer and certain documents from her.




 
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Narayanjot Kaur Ji,these official might be connected with RAW most of them come from Military and Police background and Canada Govt must be knowing their activities.otherwise there is no way to deny Govt official Tourist Visa . There was news in Tribune today "Ex-Army officer denied Canadian visa 5 times "
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All I can say is that there are too many gaps in logic in these stories over the last week. Things are hidden from they eye. I have no theories, only misgivings on both ends. Someone or some ones knows/know more. We don't. Maybe the answer is right under our noses. Maybe lower level officials were sincerely confused about who the "terrorists" are. Maybe there are so many contradictory episodes in the history of Indian intelligence services, that the stories got tangled up.
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Do you have a link for the Tribune story? It would help connect some of these dots. Too much back and forth and back and forth for my taste.


Here we have another story giving creating yet another ironic impression:



Canada has deeply regretted visa row, says Krishna

Bangalore, May 28 (IANS) External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna Friday said Canada has issued a statement “deeply regretting” the language used by its officials while rejecting visas of Indian defence and security agency officers.
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“We have received a copy of statement made by Canada’s Immigration Minister Jason Kenney. Kenney has written that Canada has the highest regard for India, Indian institutions and processes,” Krishna said.

“They have deeply regretted that the letter drafted by the public official to routine visa rejections casts aspersion on the legitimate duties carried by the Indian defence and security agencies which operate under democratic processes and rule of law,” he added.


Over the past two years, Canada rejected visas of some senior serving and retired Indian Army and intelligence officials with adverse comments, which has sparked outrage in India.



“The language of inaccurate impression in no way reflects position or policy of the government of Canada, so I think they have realised the mistake they have made. I think we should consider the chapter closed,” he added.



Last week, the Canadian high commission here refused visa to Fateh Singh Pandher, a retired Border Security Force constable, on grounds that he was associated with a “notoriously violent force”.



Lt. Gen. (retd) A.S. Bahia, a decorated Indian Army officer, was denied visa in May on grounds that he had served in a “sensitive location” of Jammu and Kashmir.

In yet another case, two brigadiers were denied visas in 2008 and another in 2009.

S.S. Sidhu, a retired Intelligence Bureau (IB) officer, was denied visa March 26, with the high commission in New Delhi contending that he belonged to the “inadmissible” category of persons.


In the rejection letter, the Canadian high commission said Sidhu could not be given visa as he had served in an organisation like IB and, therefore, he could “engage in an act of espionage or subversion” or “violence that would or might endanger the lives or safety of persons in Canada”.
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Never mind, I found it...Here it is

Ex-Army officer denied Canadian visa 5 times

Jalandhar, May 29

The list of rejection of visa by the Canadian High Commission to serving and former Army and police personnel is becoming longer as another case of denial of visitor’s visa to an ex-Army official has come to fore.


]Having served in militancy-hit Jammu and Kashmir, Capt MS Sidhu (retired) had applied for visitor’s visa for Canada five times since 2003 for visiting his son and daughter settled in Toronto, but every time his case was rejected.
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According to Sidhu, he had applied twice when he was a Block Development and Panchayat Officer with the Punjab government after his service in the Army and he applied thrice for the same after his retirement.

He said he had mentioned in his visa application that he served at several places, including Jammu & Kashmir and Assam, during his service in the Army.


]Sidhu (62) said no reason was mentioned by the Canadian authorities while rejecting his visa. He had applied for visa twice in 2003 and then in 2006, 2007 and 2009.
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Criticising the Centre for taking a soft stand, he said the government should take tough posture with the Canadian government in this regard for reconsidering such cases without any further delay.



We have been covering this episode in other threads. There has to be a better way. Personally I don't understand why Canada would deny visa applications to former agents of RAW (assuming that these individuals would be somehow part of RAW). Has Canada ever denied tourist visas to CIA or KGB retired agents? On the other hand, once official complaints were made by GOI to Canadian high officials, the music changed, and we heard a different song.Policies were reversed. So that may confirm your suspicions, but who can know for certain?
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Notice that Canada merely apologised for the "rudeness/bad language" by its Visa officla/dept..BUT NOT the Policy of denying the visas...there is a fine line here..its like saying..i apologise for slapping you...but am not apologiisng for why i slapped you..??
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The Visa denial will be carried on as ususal..BUT the REJECTION will be politely worded...
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