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| | | | | Re: Need moral support Does that make you feel good.?Why are you guided by some sign posts made by your society.?You have to convince yourself. Who is bothered whether you keep hair on legs or hands?.Believe me not even a single person.Only you would know. People do not have time to see and then analyse and then laugh or grin.Keep the hair if it is ok with you throw them apart if it is not. Where is the problem.? These are manufactured by yourself. *
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| | | | | Re: Need moral support Firstly, who cares? How about everyone who thinks this is an "appropriate" thing for women to do, and that not doing it is socially "inappropriate". This can be a powerful psychological and even practical force against which women who don't follow such trends must endure. I'm not sure you realise how much a woman who is different in such ways can be ostracized from female "community" and acceptance. Certainly the degree to which things effect you is created to some extent by the significance you grant the opinions of others, but one ought not underestimate the effects one can suffer by choosing to not follow such social memes. Ask any American atheist, for example, if it's easy being that different in many American communities. | 
13-Jan-2008, 10:23 AM
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13-Jan-2008, 10:41 AM
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| | | | | Re: Need moral support If today it is hair, tomorrow it may be the color of my hair and day after it shall be the color of my dress..and so on so forth..there is no end to the list. American Society is an amprphous term. What is soicety.I am society in myself. It is a subterfuge. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/business-and-lifestyle/19201-need-moral-support.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19201
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13-Jan-2008, 10:44 AM
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| | | | | Re: Need moral support this issue is one that drives me nuts. i've never really felt the need to shave my legs, even before becoming sikh. it just seemed like a silly waste of time to me. maybe i'm lucky in that i'm not terribly hairy, but overall, these stupid media driven ideas of beauty have never really dragged me in. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19201
here's my suggestion. just throw out the razor, throw out the shaving cream, and let it grow. once it gets past the stubble stage it's actually soft.
i think the idea that men want hairless women is created by the media. i've never met a man who actually cared that much about whether a woman shaved their legs or not (and i'm talking about american guys here).
just do it. who cares what everyone else thinks.
from wikipedia: For women, the practice of shaving the legs derives from a current cultural standard in the West that deems leg hair on women unattractive. This standard emerged during the early twentieth century, as women's legs became more visible owing to shorter hemlines, and when the safety razor made the practice of leg shaving practical. The reasons for this cultural standard are debated, but it is sometimes seen as an example of a cultural mechanism for increasing sexual dimorphism. Others have suggested that it was promoted as a means of selling razors to a broader segment of the populace. Leg shaving - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
see... it's all a plot to sell razors. | 
13-Jan-2008, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jasleen_kaur here's my suggestion. just throw out the razor, throw out the shaving cream, and let it grow. once it gets past the stubble stage it's actually soft.
just do it. who cares what everyone else thinks.  | A good one! and that is what is needed. Let them bother.Why bother for them who bother not.
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Originally Posted by Satjot Kaur I have decided to forego shaving my legs, and that is in keeping with Sikhism, so I ask you to help me feel better about my decision.
Who decided that women are supposed to shave our legs anyway? What purpose was it supposed to serve? Men were not goaded into shaving their legs. Men are not ridiculed for sporting a beard, so long as it is kept neat and clean.
In America when I was growing up, it was in middle school that girls started teasing me about the hair on my legs. My mother was opposed to me ever shaving my legs. My mother said that she did not want me to shave my legs because once I started, I could never stop. That did not seem logical to me, so I saved up my lunch money to buy shavers to shave my legs so I wouldn't be teased anymore. That's all I really wanted, to not be teased. I was teased for many things, but I will stick with this topic for this thread.
I am an adult now, and adults tend not to tease each other - but I'm sure the thoughts still go through people's heads and I suspect there is talking behind a person's back because I heard it as a child, about how ugly, nasty, gross, insert degrading comment here -- regarding either hair on the legs or the person whose legs were unshaven.
Pragmatically, shaving one's legs is a silly thing to do - but American society shames its little girls into consumerism (buying shavers, which end up as waste products after being used a few times). As adults, we continue to carry this shame that there is hair on our legs.
If guys were not also brainwashed, they might find it more erotic to have sex with a woman with hair on her legs, as opposed to the inevitable stubble that occurs with shaving.
Guys like hair, to the point that some of them do some pretty funky things to cover up if they go bald - but somehow hair on the legs is undesirable? It is true that female swim fashion does not look good unless you shave, but why isn't that the fault of the fashion industry? I have a skirted suit to cover up the most obvious of hair, but guy's suits have always covered the pubic hairy region which yes, does extend onto the legs. That area is also sexually sensual, so there is good reason for it to be covered with hair. Nevertheless, due to mass brainwashing, hair there has been determined to be a major turn-off. Yet guys complain that there are not landmarks to show exactly where what touch produces what effect. Why not? Because mainstream guys think that they want us to shave off the landmarks.
Please, help me not feel so ashamed of having hair on my legs. God put it there, and I didn't take it away. What is so wrong with that? Nothing, logically, but society causes me to feel bad about it. | I support your decision to not to shave legs.Be strong. keep it up | 
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| | | | | Re: Need moral support Reactance is an emotional reaction in direct contradiction to rules and/or regulations that threaten or eliminate specific behavioral freedoms; it can occur when someone is heavily pressured to accept a certain view or attitude. Reactance can cause the person to adopt or strengthen a view or attitude that is contrary to what was intended and also increases resistance to persuasion. A mild example could be a boy being all the more interested in a girl playing "hard to get", or teenagers drinking to excess in an environment of prohibition when they would not do so in a less restrictive culture. People using " reverse psychology" are playing on at least an informal awareness of reactance, attempting to influence someone to choose the opposite of what they request. This is a frequent method used in fraudulent or unethical sales pitches, manipulating a consumer into choosing an option they would not necessarily have chosen logically. | 
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| | | | | Re: Need moral support Wow!!!
Dan ji, You are pulling our leg (s) as we talk about shaving our legs.
Very droll indeed.
Jasleen however makes several points that hold up under analysis. Shaving one's legs is a problem that can solve itself without a lot of fuss and bother. Hair grows back soft. Many groups (e.g., African-American women) tend not to shave and no one cares one way or the other. If you wear slacks or stockings or gams no one will know if you shave. You won't cut yourself and bleed all over the nice clean bathroom floor ever again. And that is one less thing you have to do in the morning. | 
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| | | | | Re: Need moral support Who says men like shaved legs? I used to wax myself until I married this awesome husband of mine who begged me not to shave a single part of me ever again.
So I didn't.
Some men like real women. Maybe that's because they're real men? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=19201 | 
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