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11-Oct-2009, 12:11 PM
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| | | |  | |  In Love with Ignorance: Reflections on the Bani of Guru Ram Das and Sant Ravidas
ਜਦ ਤਕ ਮਨ ਸੰਤੋਖੀ ਨਹੀ ਹੁੰਦਾ (ਮਰਦਾ ਨਹੀ) ਓਨਾ ਚਿਰ,
ਪੁਲਿੰਗ (ਮੇਲ, gender) ਹੈ !
ਇਸਦੇ ਮਾਰਨ ਤੌ ਬਾਅਦ ਬੁਧੀ=ਅਕਲ ਦੀ ਪਰਧਾਨਗੀ ਆ ਜਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ,
ਤਾਂ ਇਹ ਜੀਵ ਆਤਮਾ, ਤ੍ਰੀਆ (ਬਿਬੇਕ ਬੁਧੀ ) ਕਹਾਉਂਦੀ ਹੈ !
ਸਬਦ : ਪੁਲਿੰਗ , male, ਕੰਤ , ਗੁਰੂ ਹੈ !
Surat : ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀਲਿੰਗ , female, ਚੇਲਾ , ਤ੍ਰੀਆ ਹੈ ! Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/bhagats/27023-love-ignorance-reflections-bani-guru-ram.html
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ਅਲਪ ਸੁਖ ਛਾਡਿ ਪਰਮ ਸੁਖ ਪਾਵਾ ॥
अलप सुख छाडि परम सुख पावा ॥
Alap sukẖ cẖẖād param sukẖ pāvā.
Renouncing the shallow pleasures of the world, she obtains the supreme delight.
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ਤਬ ਇਹ ਤ੍ਰੀਅ ਓੁਹੁ ਕੰਤੁ ਕਹਾਵਾ ॥੪੧॥
तब इह त्रीअ ओहु कंतु कहावा ॥४१॥
Ŧab ih ṯarī▫a ohu kanṯ kahāvā. ||41||
Then, she is the soul-bride; He is called her Husband Lord. ||41|| Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27023
ਤ੍ਰੀਆ ਚਰਿਤਰ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡ ਬੁਧੀ ਦਾ ਚਰਿਤਰ ਹੈ !
ਇਹ ਬੁਧੀ ਦੀ ਖੇਡ ਹੈ !
ਬੁਧੀ ਦੋ ਤਰਾਂ ਦੀ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਹੈ !
(੧) ਸਦਬੁਧੀ
(੨) ਕਬੁਧੀ
੧) ਤ੍ਰਿਅ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਵਿੱਚ ੧੨ ਵਾਰ ਆਇਆ ਹੈ ! ਜਿਸ ਦਾ ਅਰਥ ਹੈ ਕਬੁਿਧ!
੨) ਤ੍ਰੀਅ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਵਿੱਚ ੧ ਵਾਰ ਆਇਆ ਹੈ ! ਜਿਸ ਦਾ ਅਰਥ ਹੈ ਸਬੁਿਧ ! 
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11-Oct-2009, 12:43 PM
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The passage you quote is from Bhagat Kabirji in Sri Guru Granth Sahib. It is part of the acrostic poem/hymn that is very famous. Why have you posted it in the Bachitar Natak section? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27023
You may be on the road to some interesting comparison of AG and DG, but I can't tell. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27023
Here is the entire section
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11-Oct-2009, 22:23 PM
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Gurfateh
Respected Sister,
Atheist with communist mindset do not understand the deeper meaning of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, so they attack the Bani of Tenth Master. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27023Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27023
Attempt is being made here to decipher the spiritual meaning out of the language of Charitropakhyan, which end with title Triya Charitra. |
11-Oct-2009, 23:04 PM
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I think vijaydeep singh ji you are answering a private message that I sent to you on a public thread posted by another forum member. How is that fair? Please do not do this. |
11-Oct-2009, 23:24 PM
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Originally Posted by vijaydeep Singh  Gurfateh
Respected Sister,
Atheist with communist mindset do not understand the deeper meaning of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, so they attack the Bani of Tenth Master.
Attempt is being made here to decipher the spiritual meaning out of the language of Charitropakhyan, which end with title Triya Charitra. | Vijaydeep Singh ji,
Guru Fateh.
Once again you are slinging mud on other Sikhs, seekers, learners which shows you own egotism than anything else, which is sad and disappointing.
It is also sad to notice that you have ignored Narayanjot ji's post for the sake of you own inflated chest, it seems. I hope I am wrong.
Only Ik Ong Kaar knows which milestone each of us is at. Neither you or myself nor anyone else can find that out.
So, please STOP playing Ik Ong Kaar. It is very unbecoming on your part.
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12-Oct-2009, 00:36 AM
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Gurfateh
Respected Singh Sahib,
Forgive das for any mistake.
When terms like touts, Dasam Granthiyas are hurdled, it pains then also, so let the same pain be tased by people who hurdle.
As yourself are not one of them , then why worry.
Das has no chest of his own but chest belongs to Guru. What was given above in Punjabi, its comprihension by das was given in there.
Ek Oankar is in creation but Akal is there before creation, after creation and after creation is destroyed. |
12-Oct-2009, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by vijaydeep Singh Gurfateh
Respected Singh Sahib,
Forgive das for any mistake.
When terms like touts, Dasam Granthiyas are hurdled, it pains then also, so let the same pain be tased by people who hurdle.
As yourself are not one of them , then why worry.
Das has no chest of his own but chest belongs to Guru. What was given above in Punjabi, its comprihension by das was given in there.
Ek Oankar is in creation but Akal is there before creation, after creation and after creation is destroyed. | Vijaydeep Singh ji,
Guru Fateh.
Your post in response to my post has nothing to do with what I said in my post. This has been the norm in almost all your posts. It seems to me that either you do not understand what is being said or you have some blinders on to doggedly pursue one thing which is nothing to do with the teachings in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, our ONLY GURU.
Read my post and if you do not understand it, do not feel ashamed to ask questions and then be a true Guru ka Sikh to respond to what you have been asked. Nothing more.
Regards
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12-Oct-2009, 01:17 AM
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Gurfateh Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27023Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=27023
Well das is made up of mud and mud can not washed. This state of human.
Forgive das if he offended you.
Das is always surprised to see some of us over reacting with term comrade or atheist ? Is this guilt contentiousness among us ?
It will take time when Great Sikh of Guru like you will understand the motive of Das. Das will try his best that it is clear to you as soon as possible.
regards
ignorant, most corrupt, filthy vd singh
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12-Oct-2009, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by vijaydeep Singh Gurfateh
Well das is made up of mud and mud can not washed. This state of human.
Forgive das if he offended you.
Das is always surprised to see some of us over reacting with term comrade or atheist ? Is this guilt contentiousness among us ?
It will take time when Great Sikh of Guru like you will understand the motive of Das. Das will try his best that it is clear to you as soon as possible.
regards
ignorant, most corrupt, filthy vd singh
not worthy to be called as human even. | Vijaydeep ji,
Guru Fateh.
Once again you have failed to respond to my post the reasons only known to you. As mentioned before the same trick has been applied in almost all your posts that are posted in this forum.
Sikhi is based on honesty and personal integrity, not on some meaningless rhetoric.
Regards
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