In Love with Ignorance: Reflections on the Bani of Guru Ram Das and Sant Ravidas

Gurfateh
Das did not read this.

Anyway again sorry to S. Tejwant Singh Ji.

This is nothing to do with Das's PM.

Das wanted to write the meaning comprhended from above.

It has been told over in first post that Triya means 12 times in Gurbani as Evil intellect and Triya means one time in Gurbani Good/postive intellect .

Characteristics of Triya Charitar are forcefull charectoristics of mind.

While on this das wanted to add that term Triya as told by Gyani Balbir Singh Ji (satsatsrikal.com)stand for Thee qualities and Triya Charitar means Akal's showing own charectoristics in three qualities.

Das stands by what he said about non belivers in capabilities to understand Gurmat Via Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. But not directed to any member here as such.

 
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Tejwant, no need to waste time, some people just don't have the brain to tell difference between 10th Nanak and poet Shyam. Those who have love for duality don't understand. Our Khasam is only Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Those who like others khasams such as porn stories, Gurbani says the following:

ਖਸਮੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਦੂਜੈ ਲਗੇ ਡੁਬੇ ਸੇ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ॥ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਹੈ ਬੋਹਿਥਾ ਵਿਰਲੈ ਕਿਨੈ ਵੀਚਾਰਿਆ ॥ {ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ, ਪੰਨਾ ੪੭੦}
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Khasam Shod Doojai Lgay Dubay Say Vanjaareaa || Satgur Hai Bohethaa Virlai Kinai Veechaareaa ||<O:p</O:p
Those who forget the Husband Lord and connect to another are drowned merchants. Satguru, the True Guru, is the ship which carries us across but not many have contemplated.

You people get called Dasam Granthiyas because you love Dasam Granth. We love Guru Granth Sahib Ji and accept joats of Guru Nanak over poet Shyam so you can call us Nanakvaadis or followers of Nanakian philosophy.
<O:p</O:p

Just my thoughts!


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Gurfateh
Dear Brother TKF Ji,

Only one request. If you do not like you can kill das when ever you meet him.
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Call S. Tejwant Singh Ji with respect. He is elder to us. Though das is misunderstood by him yet he is gem of a man. So use term Singh with his name.

Coming to term Nanakwadi.

As per the statment of spokesman editor, Only Verse related to First Master are valid in Shri Guru Granth Sahib rest is interpolation. This is what his ex buddy Kirpal Singh Batinda writes. So who has a hidden agenda to attack Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji? Das today posted the stuff but will tranlate the main point and repost them soon.

das ji
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I am elder to both you and Tejwantji. Don't let that stand in your way. The hour of my death is not up to you or to me.

Don't say something like that == I can kill you when I meet you. That is not good to say.

I am just a kid on the block and intend to remain so till the rest of my life.....

Where is spokesman coming from? It doesn't matter what spokesman believes or does. True Sikhs only have faith on Guru Granth Sahib Ji. They don't need books of poet Shyam to live according to Gurmat. I appologize for not saying Tejwant Singh.
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I don't need to kill you. You already got eaten by Mahakaal.

ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਆਤਮ ਗਿਆਨ, ਬ੍ਰਮਹ ਵਿਦਿਆ ਹੈ ! ਪੰਡਿਤਾ ਜਾਂ ਵਿਦਵਾਨਾਂ ਨੇ ਜਦੋਂ ਇਸ ਬ੍ਰਮਹ
ਵਿਦਿਆ ਨੂੰ ਅਵਿਦਿਆ ਬਣਾ ਦਿੱਤਾ ਤਾਂ ਤ੍ਰੀਆ ਦਾ ਅਰਥ ਇਸਤਰੀ ਜਾਂ ਨਾਰੀ ਵੀ ਮੰਨਿਆ
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ਗਇਆ !

Page 486, Line 7
ਮਾਧੋ ਅਬਿਦਿਆ ਹਿਤ ਕੀਨ ॥
माधो अबिदिआ हित कीन ॥
Māḏẖo abiḏi▫ā hiṯ kīn.
O Lord, he is in love with ignorance.

ਬਿਬੇਕ ਦੀਪ ਮਲੀਨ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
बिबेक दीप मलीन ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Bibek ḏīp malīn. ||1|| rahā▫o.
His lamp of clear wisdom has grown dim. ||1||Pause||
Devotee ਰਵਿਦਾਸ

ਜਿਵੇ :-
ਚਰਨ : ਪੈਰ
ਕਰ : ਹੱਥ
ਨੇਤਰ : ਅੱਖਾ
ਸਰਵਣ : ਕੰਨ ਆਦਿ
ਮੰਨ ਲਏ ਗਏ ਓਸੇ ਤਰਾਂ ਤ੍ਰੀਆ ਨੂੰ ਇਸਤਰੀ ਵੀ ਮੰਨ ਲਿਆ ਗਇਆ ਪਰ ਸਾਡੇ ਕੋਲ ਫੁਰਮਾਨ
ਹੈ,

Page 102, Line 3
ਸਭ ਕਿਛੁ ਘਰ ਮਹਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਨਾਹੀ ॥
सभ किछु घर महि बाहरि नाही ॥
Sabẖ kicẖẖ gẖar mėh bāhar nāhī.
Everything is within the home of the self; there is nothing beyond.

ਬਾਹਰਿ ਟੋਲੈ ਸੋ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਹੀ ॥
बाहरि टोलै सो भरमि भुलाही ॥
Bāhar tolai so bẖaram bẖulāhī.
One who searches outside is deluded by doubt.

ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਜਿਨੀ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਪਾਇਆ ਸੋ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਸੁਹੇਲਾ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥
गुर परसादी जिनी अंतरि पाइआ सो अंतरि बाहरि सुहेला जीउ ॥१॥
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Gur parsādī jinī anṯar pā▫i▫ā so anṯar bāhar suhelā jī▫o. ||1||
By Guru's Grace, one who has found the Lord within is happy, inwardly
and outwardly. ||1||

ਭਾਵੇ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਦੇ ਬਾਹਰਲੇ ਅਰਥ ਵੀ ਬਣ ਜਾਂਦੇ ਨੇ ਪਰ ਬਾਹਰਲੇ ਹੁੰਦੇ ਨਹੀ !

ਜਿਵੇ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਵਿਚ,
ਸੂਰਜ, ਚੰਦ, ਤੀਰਥ, ਸਤਗੁਰ, ਸਮੁੰਦਰ, ਦਰਿਆ, ਆਦਿ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਤਾਂ ਬਾਹਰਲੇ ਨੇ ਪਰ ਅਸੀਂ ਅੰਦਰਲੇ ਅਰਥ ਹੀ
ਲਵਾਂਗੇ ਕਿਓਂਕਿ ਬਾਹਰਲੇ ਅਰਥ ਕੱਚੇ ਤੇ ਅੰਦਰਲੇ ਅਰਥ ਪੱਕੇ (ਨਿਰਾਕਾਰੀ) ਹੁੰਦੇ ਹਨ !



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This is really nice - and I visited that web site. Why not ask Nihang Dharam Singh to post here -- unless that is you.

It is a pity that someone like me cannot understand eveyrthing you have on the site or above.

Thanks for posting the Ang and the English for the tuks. Sat Nam ji