Anand Sahib - Pauri 1

Randip Singh · #11 (**permalink**) 15-Sep-2008, 17:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekmusafir_ajnabi

Dear Amarpal ji,

If you have already evolved, it is your good fortune.
Indeed it is with the blessings of my Gurus.

I am still seeking the level of evolution to become one with 'The Sat'. I do not know how far i have to still travel. I pray to 'The Sat' to bless me and help me evolve.

If you are still seeking then you should have no issue over my comments. If you are being corrected on your thought pattern then consider it as a blessing from the "The Sat" that you are receiving the message through this Neech.

With limited brain power that we have, we cannot comprehend 'The Sat'. Each perceives it in a way. One blessing i have received from 'The Sat' that I do not conclude on my understanding; I do not take it to be final, I know there is lot more to it; 'The Sat' has blessed me with this 'Vivek'. I still have to learn more, there is more for me to understand. This is my 'Yatra' and I continue on it.

I find your statements to be very contradicting. Bani says by thinking you cannot find the truth and yet you keep exercising thought/ mind power to find the truth. Your statements are full of wild imagination. You start forming your own views and definitions. To not conclude means you are uncertain of you views. This is not a Blessing Amarpal ji.

I agree each perceives it in a way one has been designed to perceive by Nature based on ones Karmic life. Some are destined to keep chasing their own tail and some are given the opportunity to fall out of the circle. If you are determined to chase your own tail then do so without setting it out as a guideline for others. I note from the comments in the forum that Mr Aman ji subscribes to your thought, that is his outlook. But I will conclude here that you will never see the sight of the SUN by turning your back at it.

My apollogies for hurting ones feelings. This should however not effect a student of spirituality if one is sincerely about it.

Ekmusafir_ajnabi

Are these views according to Sikhism or according to your Agnostic belief's?

ekmusafir_ajnabi · #12 (**permalink**) 22-Sep-2008, 15:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randip singh

Are these views according to Sikhism or according to your Agnostic belief's?

Yes they are the views of Sikhism but Santa Singh would not understand and neither would a Guru Nindak like you. Have another

.

Narayanjot Kaur · #13 (**permalink**) 22-Sep-2008, 20:01 PM

Jios

Some reactions.

Respected forum member Amarpalji said: With limited brain power that we have, we cannot comprehend 'The Sat'. Each perceives it in a way. One blessing i have received from 'The Sat' that I do not conclude on my understanding; I do not take it to be final, I know there is lot more to it; 'The Sat' has blessed me with this 'Vivek'. I still have to learn more, there is more for me to understand. This is my 'Yatra' and I continue on it.

My note: One of the many purposes of an Internet forum is discussion. Sometimes discussion can be such that personal understanding is shared. This is true whether we are thinking of SPN or we are thinking of other forums. From the freedom of discussion, someone like Amarpal ji talks about his "yatra" and others find it interesting to know about his experience, perhaps compare it to their own, and maybe even learn from it. That is the nature of discussion forums, which are not like places of worship or meditation centers or the meditation center of one's own home or mind, here we encourage discussion and even different perceptions. All forum members are free to do this and should feel free to do so without anticipating criticism or judgment of personality/spiritual level of development/frame of mind.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/anand-sahib/922-anand-sahib-pauri-1-a.html

Respected form member Ek Musafir ji said: I agree each perceives it in a way one has been designed to perceive by Nature based on ones Karmic life. Some are destined to keep chasing their own tail and some are given the opportunity to fall out of the circle. If you are determined to chase your own tail then do so without setting it out as a guideline for others. I note from the comments in the forum that Mr Aman ji subscribes to your thought, that is his outlook. But I will conclude here that you will never see the sight of the SUN by turning your back at it.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=922

and

I find your statements to be very contradicting. Bani says by thinking you cannot find the truth and yet you keep exercising thought/ mind power to find the truth. Your statements are full of wild imagination. You start forming your own views and definitions. To not conclude means you are uncertain of you views. This is not a Blessing Amarpal ji.

My note: Expressing "views" and "definitions" is part and parcel of writing an essay. And no one is claiming to be a Brahmgyaani so far in this thread. An essay once it is posted is intended to explore one's own thoughts and share those thoughts with others. The essay is like an invitation one extends to others to share their reactions to the essay. Perhaps agreement, disagreement, questions, additional thinking, clarification. The "contradictions" that you see could be places where you might consider sharing your own views. But criticism of the personal thoughts of Amarpal ji, or any other person in the discussion, turns a discussion sour. Then we are no longer having a discussion. Why not contribute your understanding of the pauree instead?

Amarpal ji is making use of the forum for the reasons forums were invented. So to discuss issues not personalities is the better direction in an Internet forum.

ekmusafir_ajnabi · #14 (**permalink**) 25-Sep-2008, 23:16 PM

Dear Aman ji and AAd ji,

Anand Sahib is the inner deep spiritual thoughts of Guru ji. The experience of "Goonge di mithai" has been verbally explained here. The impossible made possible. Still it is not going to be easy to understand.You have to get there to understand it. With the insults and disrespect to the Sadhu/Saint and Gurus in this forum I do feel at ease to share the intimate feelings of Guru ji. Sometimes it is better to experience these thoughts when one has mentally become more mature.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=922
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=922

Ekmusafir_ajnabi

Narayanjot Kaur · #15 (**permalink**) 25-Sep-2008, 23:28 PM

Ekmusafir ji

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=922
I respect your position. Yes, you are free not to discuss. You are also free to discuss when and what you choose.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=922

Please keep in mind that there are forum members who look eagerly for your comments and sincerely want to read your understanding of Shabad Guru. I am one of those people. It would be a loss if your insights were not posted in the threads.

Aman ji and I only want to be sure that that freedom is open to everyone within forum guidelines.