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Re: Anand Sahib: 24th Pauri: My understanding

Dear Balbir Singh Ji,



Answering your post takes long time and I get logged out from the site again and again. At least this time I will answer to the questions you have raised and ask you some for me to learn.



i) Guru Ji sang Anand Sahib in ecstasy.



I have no way to find out in what state my Guru Sahib was. I can only say from his words that Guru Sahib was in an elated state.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/anand-sahib/2216-anand-sahib-24th-pauri.html
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2216



Here I wish to learn from you what does the word ‘ecstasy’ means in the context of spirituality. How can one know that she or he is in that stage? I admit I have not reached that state.


ii) I am surprised to read your arguments and this statement "As a result I did not feel the need to elaborate on this word 'hor'."




Yes it is so. I am not doing things mechanically. If a word does not change my understanding I do not spend time on it. There is nothing to be surprised about. That is my way.

iii) Firstly our Gurus never tried to explain others what 'The Sat' meant to them.
They just lived it and sang it.




I hold the opinion that in the ‘Mool Mantra’ this explanation is given.



iv) May I ask what is that all what they sang about Manmukh, Maya, Duality etc.?



I have not come across the word Manmukh in any other scripture of the land except Gurbani. Other terms by themselves do not mean criticism. Explaining the process (Maya) and the falseness (Dualities) that they lead one into is not a criticism, this is the way positive thinkers, which our Guru Sahibs were do. I do not take them to be criticism. This is my opinion.



v) Secondly they realized Truth in all.


I think there is an element of learning for me in the statement you have made. What does it mean?

vi) Where something was deep rooted among the masses, which was not desirable, they explained it to the masses and persuaded them to move away from those practices or concepts.




Yes, through proper explanation they persuaded other to give up those practices or concept. They never asked them to leave their faith. They only asked them to get rid of any falsehood that might have crept in.



vii) They recognised pluralities of ways



Yes, this is evident from the fact that they never asked any one to change her or his religion.



With this I close.



With love and respect for all.



Amarpal Singh
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