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Surinder Kaur Cheema · #14 (**permalink**) 10-05-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Archived_member2

Pray truth for all and say Satsriakal!
Surinder Cheema Ji!

You wrote "My research boils down to this: it can be used to start, but it works for only those people who have very strong belief in Bani."

I do not know if God has a measuring scale. I feel His Grace just showers.

I simply do not want to know what you mean by the measuring tape concept. All I know that any thing works if it is done with strong belief.

And having a strong belief is the most difficult attribute to achieve. To bring this in your heart and mind, you never know what is going to work. Sometimes a person needs only one small incidence that triggers the belief, in some cases it is a book, sometimes it could be something that happened to somebody else; there are endless possibilities. How God’s power is going to work, a common mind cannot perceive.

Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Teg Bahadur Ji says:

gj kI qRws imtI iCnhU mih jb hI rwmu bKwno ]
The elephant's fear was taken away in an instant, as soon as he chanted the Lord's Name.

nwrd khq sunq DR¨A bwirk Bjn mwih lptwno ]
Listening to Naarad's teachings, the child Dhroo was absorbed in deep meditation.

Yes His Grace just showers. But it happens only when Sadhak reaches a certain point, a state of mind. But to get to that point(iCn) lots of sacrifices are needed. The path to that point of time is not easy. So many are struggling to reach there using unlimited means. But again you have to follow the Guru with FULL FAITH. No devotion No achievement.

Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Amar Das Ji says:
rwm rwm sBu ko khY kihAY rwmu n hoie ]

Everyone chants the Lord's Name, Raam, Raam; but just by chanting, the Lord is not obtained.

SGGS Page 491

Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Ram Das Ji says:
syvk isK pUjx siB Awvih siB gwvih hir hir aUqm bwnI ]
All the Sikhs and servants come to worship and adore You; they sing the sublime Bani of the Lord, Har, Har.

gwivAw suixAw iqn kw hir Qwie pwvY ijn siqgur kI AwigAw siq siq kir mwnI ]1]
Their singing and listening is approved by the Lord; they accept the Order of the True Guru as True, totally True. SSGS Page 669

Again He says:
hir dir iqn kI aUqm bwq hY sMqhu hir kQw ijn jnhu jwnI ]
They alone are praised in the Court of the Lord, O Saints, who know and understand the Lord's sermon.
Page 669

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Originally Posted by Archived_member2

You also wrote "One poitedness is all that matters."

Please provide a reference from Gurbani. I will be grateful.

One pointedness- I do not think you understood what I meant by it, because it is mentioned in Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji many many times. It is the sustained attention towards the Almighty. Or it can be said the focusing of our attention on God ceaselessly. Or un-splitted concentration….One Pointedness is the attribute that is most important on the Spiritual path.

Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Arjun Dev Ji says:
iek min eyku iDAweIAY mn kI lwih BrWiq ]
With one-pointed mind, meditate on the One Lord, by doing so all the doubts of your mind will be dispelled. SGGS Page 46

Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Amar Das Ji says:

ey mn hir jI iDAwie qU iek min iek iciq Bwie ]
O mind, meditate on the Dear Lord, with single-minded conscious concentration. SSGS Page 653

Dhan Dhan Bhatt Bhikha Ji saya:
sic scu jwxIAY iek icqih ilv lwvY ]
In truth, the True Lord is recognized and realized, when one is lovingly attuned to Him, with one-pointed consciousness. SGGS Page 1395

A lot has been said about the controlling of our wandering mind: what else does it mean to you other than one pointedness. Like:

Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Arjun Dev Ji says:
Dwvq mnu rwKY iek Twie ]
Keep your wandering mind restrained in one place. SGGS Page 299

Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Nanak Dev Ji says:
mnUAw n folY gurmuiK bUJY Dwvqu vrij rhwey ]
His mind does not waver; as Gurmukh, he understands. He restrains it from wandering out. SGGS Page 1012

A lot of devotion is needed on this path. Guru Ji says

hau KVI inhwlI pMDu mqu mUM sjxu Awvey ]
I stand by the side of the road, waiting for You; O my Friend, I hope that You will come.

ko Awix imlwvY Aju mY ipru myil imlwvey ]
If only someone would come today and unite me in Union with my Beloved.

hau jIau krI iqs ivtau cau KMnIAY jo mY iprI idKwvey ]
I would cut my living body into four pieces for anyone who shows me my Beloved.

nwnk hir hoie dieAwlu qW Guru pUrw mylwvey ]5]
O Nanak, when the Lord becomes merciful, then He leads us to meet the Perfect Guru.

ijnI siqguru mMinAW hau iqn ky lwgau pwie ]
I touch the feet of those who believe in and obey the True Guru.

nwnku qw kw dwsu hY ij Anidnu rhY ilv lwie ]6]

Nanak is the slave of those who, night and day, remain lovingly attuned to the Lord.

Then:
BweI ry mIqu krhu pRBu soie ]
O Siblings of Destiny, make God your Friend.

Then:
sdw sdw AwrwDIAY idnu ivsrhu nhI rwiq ]3]
Forever and ever, worship and adore Him. Day and night, do not forget Him. ||3||

Then:
dyKY suxY hdUir sd Git Git bRhmu rivMdu ]
Seeing and hearing, He is always close at hand. In each and every heart, God is pervading.

This path is not that easy as it sounds to many. You have surrender totally by body and mind; and burn your ego:

qnu mnu kwit kwit sBu ArpI ivic AgnI Awpu jlweI ]

I Alologise if it is hurting your faith but this is all Guru's teachings. Also I apologise if any double negatives of mine confused anybody. It only meant that we should not get lost in countings. If it made you laugh at me that is great, at least you laughed.