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re: The Entire Raag Mala: The Last 2 Parts Missing?

Gurfateh
Respected Sister,

With organic compounds more then 65 years say till thousneds of years we will be able to get the reuslt.

In inorganic Nucler dating it can go much more in past as we use this in geology to get the age of rock.

Das would like to examime the mixture of ink and paper that will guive the time of writing and if it is proven that it at the time of Guru then Brahmanical absorbtion theroy due to Sikhs in Jungle will be void.

If we say that all the acent Scripyts were interpolated then we are saying that we do not have auothenthic version of Guru Granth sahib Ji and it is based upon oraltradition like Holy Bible and Holy Kuran which das thinks is wrong.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/discourses-in-english/6994-entire-raag-mala-last-2-parts.html

Das would like to inform that Bhai Jodh Singh(not Dr Jodh Singh) did find that Adi Bir or intial copy is the one at Kartarpur.

Coming to faith of sickness etc. das would like to tell you that till this date many of the missionaries say that Aahmad Shah Abdali died of cancer which happened after a brick while desrroying Darbar Sahib hit his nose.

Such things are only for belivers and non Belivers may not belive.

Das wants your permission to brin g below such other parts of Guru Granth sahib Ji also which likie Raagmala if taken without refering others part of Guru Granth Sahib Ji look Brahmanical Conspiracy.

and should they be removed too.As Babu Teja Singh Ji did.

Das is repeating that Das also thinks that Raagmala may not be writtan b y Guru but he might have got it from say prostitues cout as the same Raag which are there for lust are going to be used for spritual upliftment.

Evil turned for Good as God is in evil also.Like Sarangi was usly been used in Brothal but same is used in Gurudwaras to put its use to uplift us spritually.

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=6994
If ads is not mistaken there are verses of Ninth Master which cleraly tells of harlot/*****/Ganika getting Salvation by name of God.

Guru was for all socity and did not descrimnated for class as we do.

Das is sorry if wrong is writtan but tommorow das will try to meet S. Surjeet Singh Ji Missioanries of Delhi and if has that verse you are asking then they will be produced.

But das is also interseted to know the age of oldest copy of prongraphic verese(if any).

Say if they are after the age of Adi bir and some mischivious person added later to demfame Gurubani then what should we do?

Lastly Das would like to say that if you see Guru Granth Sahib Ji,There are verse which tell about magic or Miracles but they are to be attributed to Akal and not to human as we tend to start those Humans who perform them as personal worship.

Rember the thing,We do not have our wisdom but all belongs to Guru(not the person but one who lives in all).
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