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Originally Posted by Atheist  Dear Sinister Ji,
So let us establish that some very improbable event occurred that required an endothermic reaction and lots of energy from the sun, and evolution took its course (yes very over-simplified). Some christians say that evolution is impossible because it violates thermodynamics. However, thermodynamics applies to closed systems, and evolution is a very open system. And once the start of life occurred, natural selection (the "selfish gene" as Dawkins puts it) is a very NON-random response to the environment, as everyone here already knows. So in evolution, we go from less complicated (bacteria) to more complicated (humans), again indicating an endothermic reaction (or rather, lots and lots of endothermic reactions requiring energy).
The question is, is god a necessary component in all this? Does Sikhi mention evolution or something similar to it? |
Athiest ji,
I believe that you are fully aware of Sikhi and Sikhism. Generally speaking, we have never addressed God the way you state in various posts. It seems that for you God is a commodity 'for sale'. It is not for us.
He is the most Majestic thing , who has created this universe and galaxies ,whether the reactions were endothermic or exothermic is not known and is of no consequence to us. Whether there was conversion of potential energy or kinetic energy is also not known to us. WE are acquainted with these terms as these are recent products and we have learnt in our schools
otherwise there is no relevance of these terms as well. Some people have tried to use Einstein's equation and others have employed Quantum mechanics and some have also tried the use of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. It is of no avail. I am sure that you have some understanding of bani or at least you enjoy.The following lines would be of some interest:
kvxu su vylw vKqu kvxu kvx iQiq kvxu vwru ] (4-16, jpu, mÚ 1)
What was that time, and what was that moment? What was that day, and what was that date?
kvix is ruqI mwhu kvxu ijqu hoAw Awkwru ] (4-17, jpu, mÚ 1)
What was that season, and what was that month, when the Universe was created?
vyl n pweIAw pMfqI ij hovY lyKu purwxu ] (4-17, jpu, mÚ 1)
The Pandits, the religious scholars, cannot find that time, even if it is written in the Puraanas.
vKqu n pwieE kwdIAw ij ilKin lyKu kurwxu ] (4-18, jpu, mÚ 1)
That time is not known to the Qazis, who study the Koran.
iQiq vwru nw jogI jwxY ruiq mwhu nw koeI ] (4-18, jpu, mÚ 1)
The day and the date are not known to the Yogis, nor is the month or the season.
jw krqw isrTI kau swjy Awpy jwxY soeI ] (4-19, jpu, mÚ 1)
The Creator who created this creation-only He Himself knows.
It has been taken from Japji Sahib that we read as the morning Prayer to remember the All Majestic and all powerful and the causes of causes. We hold HIM in reverence and in awe as well. We are told that we should have fear of the Lord all Mighty.
You should also employ the language so that God is not bracketed in any Sarcasm. Your co-operation is solicited. We wish you a very happy journey on this forum.
Regards.!