Originally Posted by Mai Harinder Kaur
Hi, Curious Seeker ji,
I am generally called Mai and I would be most pleased if you call me that.
I didn't realise that Baha'i was Abrahamic. I'm afraid that religious branch loses me at the first mention of God being angry. I do insist that any Supreme Being that holds my allegiance be better behaved than I am, and I have outgrown temper tantrums (most of the time).
If by prophesies you mean predictions of the future, I think not. In fact, I don't think that sort of thing enters into Sikhi at all! Any thing like astrology or fortune telling is against our code of conduct, the Sikh Rehat Maryada.
(Should you wish to take a look at it, I've linked it here. It's really not very long or complicated and it would give you a good idea of how we are supposed to behave. It isn't perfect, but it's what we've got for now.) As close as I can think of predicting the future would simply be cause and effect. If I do A, then B will result. But that's logic, not prophesy.
I think many of us now are making a huge attempt to keep Sikhi from being corrupted as Zoroastrianism was. We have the whole Hinduvta movement which insists that we are really Hindus to be reassimilated into the fold, that we don't even exist as a separate religion.
We have even within the ranks of Sikhs those who are trying to bring in a whole silly mythology along with a bit of porn, which would certainly change the whole religion into something unrecognisable as Sikhi. (Now there are those who would be quite indignant, perhaps even violent at my saying that, but it's the truth.)
It's late now and I'm getting careless with my words, so I better quit for now.
Sorry I mispelled,
Thank yoiu so much for the link to the Code of Conduct! I meant to say could I call you Mai not Mari
! Well Bahai's come out of Islam and while they are something like Islam Lite, they do consider Abraham a prophet, so ... Abrahamic.
The reason I ask about prophecies is because the Bahai's use those to try to claim that Baha Ullah was predicted by other religion's own scriptures. Since you have no prophecies then they are handicapped in trying to convert Sikhs, although, knowing their methods they will probably claim that Nanak was talking about Baha Ullah
. Don't laugh but they have actually argued that Baha Ullah is physically related to Abraham, Zarathushtra AND Mohammed!
By the way, thank you so much for the link to the Code of Conduct I am trying to understand it as I read it.( You realize, I hope, that your terminology its new to me and and somewhat confusing , when you use so many Non-English terms.)
I do have yet to find a prophecy that, upon study, stands up to that study or has been fulfilled, so put me on the agnostic camp about prophecy. Now deduction or prediction that is something else, and it does involve logic and a bit of understanding of human nature as well.
Ah the Hinduvta! Believe it or not even Parsis a are being proselityzed to give up their religion and 'come back'. I though Hinduism was tolerant? I guess that is another one of those Political Correct lies. Now there are, what, 700 million Hindus and only 30 million Sikhs, am I correct? That can be very dangerous. What kind of protections do you have under Indian law?
Mythology? Porn? Why is it that people always want to be ignorant corrupt and superstitious. Its a rethorical question. The only answer is education. Do you have something like the Islamic or Mormon schools? ( You know the Mormons, have their kids go to secular school, mostly, and then they have to go to Mormon school to learm Mormon values. Islam has schools like that too, although I don't know if they have many secular schools.)
What does Chardi kala! mean?
Till the next post and thanks for all your help!