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Originally Posted by Ozarks I'm sorry Josh, I misunderstood.  If I may I will quote myself:
It is my belief that the Way is in fact the natural order and the natural order is a reflection of the will of the Creator. |
I think I agree with you here. Sant Atar singh ji in sabha in Shiri harmandir sahib said thats its not control(keep it still) ones "Mun" by force. The real way; by following the, i like how u put it here, "natural" order Mun naturally flows into state called "Vus".
While Guru Sahib ji say that who which went(did something) to find God by themselves(without Guru) lost themselves.(might go in detail if asked)
Natural order,
from my understanding, is the ever-so Nirmal Gursikhi, where Guru, by his grace shows us that God is in our own home/heart.
Divine Harmony also known as Hukam/bhana/will of the creater is one of early powri's in Japji Sahib and If I may be bold enough, one of the foundations of Sikhism.
This seems little confusing? Your response and I try to go back to heart that desire participation.